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Old 04-12-2007, 05:46 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Maybe it was your tact. I don't think I would have put it in so blatant terms. I will say, however, that as far as God the Father goes, Jesus did established that He ought to be addressed as such, you know that "Our Father, which art in heaven..." thing. Relationally, it speaks of an authority figure, much as our fathers are traditionally authoritative in our lives. Moveover, if you believe that Jesus is God in the flesh, then, yes, God does have a penis.

But again, there are a myriad of reasons why God became flesh in the form of a man and not a woman, not the least of which to convey the relationship with a Husband (Christ) and His Bride (the Holy Spirit-filled church), beautifully illustrated in Ephesians 5:22-33. Get the picture?
Hey Dondi...

I left out the first hour of the arguement... my tact had run out by that time... lol...

The point that I was attempting to make in the meeting is that we ought not try to fit God into our little box of understanding... and that I did not feel that we should use the concept of the Holy Spirit as representing the feminine aspects of God as something to divide the churches even more...

We had been meeting weekly with other church leaders in town to try to foster some type of fellowship between our congregations... and my head pastor was wanting to withdraw... due to the Holy Spirit issue... it seemed than as it does now... something we should not let divide us...

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Old 04-12-2007, 08:34 PM   #32 (permalink)
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tis funny how here on earth all those that are our creators, giving birth, having sons...are female...

and how that notion just tears apart some folks...

maybe that is something men have to look forward to in heaven....giving birth!
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Old 04-12-2007, 08:54 PM   #33 (permalink)
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LOL...

Hmmm... do I really have to look forward to it...
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Old 04-13-2007, 12:13 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Old 04-13-2007, 02:12 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Welcome.

I went ahead and merged the threads into one.

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Old 04-13-2007, 10:06 AM   #36 (permalink)
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tis funny how here on earth all those that are our creators, giving birth, having sons...are female...

and how that notion just tears apart some folks...

maybe that is something men have to look forward to in heaven....giving birth!
Umm, I would say that giving birth was more like going through hell than being in heaven, but that's just my own experience....
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Old 04-13-2007, 01:25 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Welcome, Jaded Fool!

Umm, I would say that giving birth was more like going through hell than being in heaven, but that's just my own experience....
I remember the first birth I attended...hmmm the only one, as the doctor's kicked me out when they had to do a C-section for my twins.

Anyway, I was up in Alaska and became a friend of this one family, parents in their 60's, kids in 20's and 30's, and then grandkids... I helped teach one of the grandkids swimming, an infant whose mom and dad were afraid to take him to the infant class but wanted him to get used to the water as they had two older boys and a pool... So I went...what an experience with an infant under water...they joy in their eyes, incredible. (I was able to do the same with my own years later...)

So does this at all apply to Jaded's discussions? I think maybe...it is strange where we end up, and where we find family. When I went to Alaska, there was family there...but they weren't welcoming...and strangely I found a family without looking who defiinetly was welcoming and I had a fabulous time... I also reconnected with the one that wasn't.

The metaphor I see, is that Jaded will be back leading, with a group which is more welcoming, more suited, more comfortable and through that relationship will heal the past to where it is seen as a growth experience and not a negative at all...


But back to the birth (the original hijack direction of our Jaded friends greeting) Another one was having her first baby, and the husband was too squeemish to attend...somehow I was in there...oh she screamed bloody murder...cursed a blue streak...swore never again...less than a month later she was talking about another one...
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Hey wil...

Thanx for the encouragement

I very much appreciate it!!

I miss having the oppurtunity to share my heart with others... and I must say I find it a little difficult in this written form... I am much more comfortable speaking to people and sharing my heart and passion in that form... but I am learning and growing... and thats a good thing... woot!!

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Jaded Fool, glad to see you got yourself a nice avatar. Is that Jesus as the Fonz or the Fonz as Jesus?

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