Has the bible been altered? Not translated, interpreted, but altered?

[mee]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

Maybe you continue to evangelise because you want competition for this glossy pic of paradise,

Just a thot

Tao

we make known the GOODNEWS of better things , because then others can become a part of the GREAT CROWD that will go on to inherit the paradise earth
REVELATION 7;9-10 matthew 24;14


and those who join this ever bigger GREAT CROWD are in unity indeed .

[mee]

Originally Posted by greymare

ah good point. I would indeed like to know the answer as well please

its all in the bible and knowing what the bible REALLY teaches is the way to go

[mee]

Originally Posted by cyberpi

Wisdom or truth can be given anywhere. But... will it? Should it?

Look! My own servants will cry out joyfully because of the good condition of the heart, ISAIAH 65;14.

And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come. MATTHEW 24;14



IT SHOULD AND IT IS

[greymare]

according to you.... the correct religion/faith could be called "the great crowd" or even "Lambs flock of sheep". Or " Spiritual Israelites". because you have quoted these terms out of your holy book. If I interpreted the bible like you and your mob do I could literally start a new religion on those topics. After all, according to you, mee, its in your king james version it must be true. ( Im seriously trying not to mock you, Im just trying to make a point )

[mee]

[quote=greymare;134075]. After all, according to you, mee, its in your king james version it must be true. ( Im seriously trying not to mock you, Im just trying to make a point )[/quotea

All bibles have the same theme ,and it all centres on Gods kingdom DANIEL 2;44 REVELATION 7;9-10 .Some bibles say GREAT CROWD some bibles say GREAT MULTITUDE it means the same thing . and they are now being gathered

[greymare]

MY point is...... anyone with knowledge of the bible can convince themselves and even others to follow THEIR interpretation of the bible and even have quotes to back themselves up etc. So that is why all the quotes in the world mean nothing to me. Its just YOUR interpretation of an old book of morals, to me. (not that there is anything wrong with that, its just I dont hold a whole lot of faith in it. )

[Tao_Equus]

Mee, I have read the Bible, some bits of it many times. Revelations is hallucinogenic nonsense, deliberately included so it can be used to justify any crazy reasoning. In any other area of life except ones faith all JW's would be offered counselling and perhaps medication for holding such irrational beliefs. I look forward to the day that we can make paradise here on earth without need of an Armageddon, and where our children can grow free from the miserable brainwashing of crazy cults. With all your quotes you take a long winded and tedious way to say that you are brainwashed into believing in a petty little deity. I feel sorry for you buddy. Truly I do. But I see that arguing with you about this nonsense only serves to make you retreat into dogma. So I am going to disengage. I hope that some day you will find that its ok to walk without crutches, to be free and be yourself.

Regards

Tao

[mee]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

Revelations is hallucinogenic nonsense, deliberately included so it can be used to justify any crazy reasoning.

Regards

Tao

many people think many things , but not always according to accurate knowledge .

people are free to think what they like . but at the end of the day either the bible is true or it isnt.


for me ,

I believe the whole of the bible including the book of revelation has a theme running right through it , from Genesis to revelation ,and the outcome is very good indeed

And the last book of the bible(revelation) is a most enlightening book indeed , especially in the times that we live in NOW .we are now well along into the time of the end and the wonderful promises of the bible are soon to be a reality.

and as revelation 22 ;6 says

These words are faithful and true .


yes, as revelation 21;5 says


And the One seated on the throne said: “Look! I am making all things new.” Also, he says: “Write, because these words are faithful and true.”


(Revelation 1:3) Happy is he who reads aloud and those who hear the words of this prophecy, and who observe the things written in it; for the appointed time is near.

[mee]

Originally Posted by greymare

MY point is...... anyone with knowledge of the bible can convince themselves and even others to follow THEIR interpretation of the bible and even have quotes to back themselves up etc. So that is why all the quotes in the world mean nothing to me. Its just YOUR interpretation of an old book of morals, to me. (not that there is anything wrong with that, its just I dont hold a whole lot of faith in it. )

i would word it a bit differently ,
Anyone with knowledge about Jehovah and his son Jesus christ can show others what the bible says, and if those people act on the words of Jesus in JOHN 17;3 They can get on that road to everlasting life .


This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ. JOHN 17;3


Teaching others what the bible REALLY TEACHES leads to much enlightenment indeed. i would say that what the bible really teaches has been hidden from view and thats because the thoughts of men have clouded the thoughts of God . and its been going on for centuries, but now TRUE KNOWLEDGE is abundant indeed Daniel 12;4

[mee]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

Mee, I have read the Bible, some bits of it many times.

Regards

Tao

but are you getting the understanding of it ?

many people have the bible and even read bits of it many times ,but they are still without understanding .

which reminds me of the Ethiopian eunuch, in the book of ACTS 8;26-36

he was a man that wanted to understand the scriptures at that time , but it wasnt until he used the right channel that he was given the understanding.



A Christian named Philip had proved to him that Jesus was the promised Messiah. Touched to the heart by what he had learned from the Scriptures, the Ethiopian man took action. He showed that he wanted to be baptized!—Acts 8:26-36.


He could have read the bible over and over again but it was phillip who opened up the scriptures to him.



NOW, in the times that we live in , great understanding about the bible ,and especially the book of revelation is going on . but the question is are we willing to use that channel .



I am willing to humble myself and recogonize that Jesus is using a faithful class that is dishing out understanding and bible based knowledge . ... MATTHEW 24;45-47.



we are now well along into bible prophecy . and now that faithful class has been given great responsibility. and it is all GOODNEWS MATTHEW 24;14 DANIEL 2;44

[mee]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

I hope that some day you will find that its ok to walk without crutches, to be free and be yourself.

Regards

Tao

“You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”—JOHN 8:32.





I am now free , because i know the truth .
just as those believing Jews back in Jesus day were set free ,

And so Jesus went on to say to the Jews that had believed him: “If YOU remain in my word, YOU are really my disciples, and YOU will know the truth, and the truth will set YOU free.”JOHN 8;31-32
so today i have been set free from false religion and i have got out of false religion Revelation 18;4

[Dor]

Originally Posted by greymare

according to you.... the correct religion/faith could be called "the great crowd" or even "Lambs flock of sheep". Or " Spiritual Israelites". because you have quoted these terms out of your holy book. If I interpreted the bible like you and your mob do I could literally start a new religion on those topics. After all, according to you, mee, its in your king james version it must be true. ( Im seriously trying not to mock you, Im just trying to make a point )

Actually not to stir the pot but Mee is taught to use the NWT. Please half the stuff he posts is not in the KJV but is from the JW version they translated to fit some mens ideas.

[Dor]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

Mee, I have read the Bible, some bits of it many times. Revelations is hallucinogenic nonsense, deliberately included so it can be used to justify any crazy reasoning. In any other area of life except ones faith all JW's would be offered counselling and perhaps medication for holding such irrational beliefs. I look forward to the day that we can make paradise here on earth without need of an Armageddon, and where our children can grow free from the miserable brainwashing of crazy cults. With all your quotes you take a long winded and tedious way to say that you are brainwashed into believing in a petty little deity. I feel sorry for you buddy. Truly I do. But I see that arguing with you about this nonsense only serves to make you retreat into dogma. So I am going to disengage. I hope that some day you will find that its ok to walk without crutches, to be free and be yourself.

Regards

Tao

Well sorry but if it means nothing at all to you then what the hell are you doing here?

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by greymare

according to you.... the correct religion/faith could be called "the great crowd" or even "Lambs flock of sheep". Or " Spiritual Israelites". because you have quoted these terms out of your holy book. If I interpreted the bible like you and your mob do I could literally start a new religion on those topics. After all, according to you, mee, its in your king james version it must be true. ( Im seriously trying not to mock you, Im just trying to make a point )

Indeed, David Koresh did exactly that, in Waco, Texas...and he and followers burned for it...

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

Mee, I have read the Bible, some bits of it many times. Revelations is hallucinogenic nonsense, deliberately included so it can be used to justify any crazy reasoning. In any other area of life except ones faith all JW's would be offered counselling and perhaps medication for holding such irrational beliefs. I look forward to the day that we can make paradise here on earth without need of an Armageddon, and where our children can grow free from the miserable brainwashing of crazy cults. With all your quotes you take a long winded and tedious way to say that you are brainwashed into believing in a petty little deity. I feel sorry for you buddy. Truly I do. But I see that arguing with you about this nonsense only serves to make you retreat into dogma. So I am going to disengage. I hope that some day you will find that its ok to walk without crutches, to be free and be yourself.

Regards

Tao

Easy Tao. You do not unequivicably know that for fact. No one does. It is impossible to prove what hasn't taken place yet. What we do know, is that of all the prophecies noted in the Bible, so far, not one has failed to come to pass. This you must admit is an astonishing feat in and of itself, considering there are over a thousand of them. No other "religious" guide can make that claim, save the Judeo/Christian scriptures...

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