Help?

17th Angel · 03-26-2007, 09:51 AM

Dilemma, not sure if this is going to do any good, but going to throw it out there… As you know I –used- to be into the christian way…. For around two years. Then I completely forgot it and stood I guess “against” it. Not in an anti way, like I did before I became a christian. Yet every night when I go to bed, I find myself compelled to think of god… But, I know I am not wishing to live my life any longer in service of someone or something. And again, most of the time I don’t even believe he exists… So, why do I, in a rational explanation, start dwelling on certain things, when I am going to sleep? Not sure if this is going to help or whatever, but interesting to see what comes up.

InLove · 03-26-2007, 03:02 PM

Hi Angel--

I am wondering--do you then dream or something along dream lines?

InPeace,
InLove

17th Angel · 03-26-2007, 03:07 PM

Yeah I do... But no connection, I just tend to have dreams about my past latley... Like old friends I have long forgotten, my days in the Army.... and so on.. Just bugging me that at night before I sleep or anything I am there just thinking of nothing but god.

InLove · 03-26-2007, 03:20 PM

Angel, I don't claim to be an expert in any of these kinds of things, but it sounds to me like God is an important issue in "the back of your mind", which, to me, indicates something arising from heart/spirit/subconcious--however one likes to describe it. Some would say "the still, small voice within".

When the business of each day is over--and we are a busy bunch of people here in this world--is the window of time where deeper, less busy, more contemplative things are able to come to the forefront of our thoughts. Spiritual issues. The search for Truth. Questions, and the time to just let things sort of "untangle", without anyone else hearing or seeing.

I would also say that whatever dreams come during sleep mode may seem unconnected, but if you keep allowing this time--going with "the flow", so to speak--you may actually find that there are related messages there.

Like I say, I am not an expert, but in my personal experience (and I know I am not alone in this), it has been helpful for me not to worry about these things too much--just let them come, and try to continue to tune in.

Hope this helps some.

InPeace,
InLove

17th Angel · 03-26-2007, 03:22 PM

I guess I can go with that, thanks for the suggestions... I just find it crazy I don't believe in god, yet I can't stop thinking of this diety when in bed.. But yeah I'll pay some attention see where it leads

Prober · 03-26-2007, 04:18 PM

Perhaps metaphorically you view God as imponderable. So since you've been pondering all this God stuff lately, pondering the imponderable has created this tape loop in your mind which comes back up in the form of God images.

(er somethin like that)

Does that even make sense?

17th Angel · 03-26-2007, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Prober

Perhaps metaphorically you view God as imponderable. So since you've been pondering all this God stuff lately, pondering the imponderable has created this tape loop in your mind which comes back up in the form of God images.

(er somethin like that)

Does that even make sense?

That makes sense, aye. To dwell on it... so long, it is imprinted if you will in my head?

wil · 03-26-2007, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 17th Angel

I know I am not wishing to live my life any longer in service of someone or something.

Let me see, a creator that demands that its creations work for or worship him...demands we go to worship on the sabbath, demands that we do x,y, or z....

To me it doesn't compute. I want to go to church...I get too much out of it not to go. I want to volunteer and do charitable works..I enjoy the piss out of it. I want to study and learn more I love it for it.

I love G-d as the source of my life, of all life, of the very air I breathe and the money in my pocket, and the food on my table...how can I not be grateful. But worship, gotta do it or I am some kind of sinner...that I can't understand.

17th Angel · 03-26-2007, 04:35 PM

So in your chilled and spaced out way... Your saying to me, that I don't have to change my life 100% Hence chaning me, who I am... Because to have life and to enjoy life is a way of giving thanks? And... I am understanding a hippy lol what's going on here...

Dondi · 03-26-2007, 04:55 PM

As Christ said, He didn't come to heal those who are well, but the sick. If you don't see yourself as needing to change, then I suppose that you can just continue as you are. Sorta like the alcoholic who doesn't want to admit he has a problem. Not saying you have a problem, but that it is up to your conscience to decide.

I am rather intrigued that you can't seem to get your mind off of the concept of God. Probably because you are spending much time here with those who believe in God. Perhaps you ought to cut back on exposure to religion, and maybe this forum, and see if you notice a change. God forbid you start to believe in Him or something.

17th Angel · 03-26-2007, 04:58 PM

I have got passed the stage of letting others rub off on my accidental. I haven't been here much for awhile anyway... I come here when at work... That is really it.. Most of what I do online I forget once home... So I dunno....

Dondi · 03-26-2007, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 17th Angel

I have got passed the stage of letting others rub off on my accidental.

I dunno, but that sounds strangely vulgar to me. But then I work with a bunch of sailors and Marines.

Prober · 03-26-2007, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 17th Angel

That makes sense, aye. To dwell on it... so long, it is imprinted if you will in my head?

Yeah. Your mind has bumped into a wall and it's attempting to send you a message to solve the problem.

Snoopy · 03-26-2007, 05:24 PM

So:

Nearly 1400 posts, about 2.5 per day, on a website called Comparative Religion.

Why this forum 17th, rather than any other out there on the net?

s.

Quahom1 · 03-26-2007, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 17th Angel

Dilemma, not sure if this is going to do any good, but going to throw it out there… As you know I –used- to be into the christian way…. For around two years. Then I completely forgot it and stood I guess “against” it. Not in an anti way, like I did before I became a christian. Yet every night when I go to bed, I find myself compelled to think of god… But, I know I am not wishing to live my life any longer in service of someone or something. And again, most of the time I don’t even believe he exists… So, why do I, in a rational explanation, start dwelling on certain things, when I am going to sleep? Not sure if this is going to help or whatever, but interesting to see what comes up.

Why do we stare at the stars at night an ponder how they came to be, or how many worlds might be circling them? Why do we ask questions that no one can really give a good result to?

We want answers. "Is that all there is" is not good enough. (at least for you).

Keep on point, soldier.

v/r

Joshua