Holocaust Denial ?

GlorytoGod · 02-25-2009, 10:11 AM

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Holocaust-denying bishop lands in UK after expulsion from Argentina | World news | guardian.co.uk

A Roman Catholic bishop who questioned the truth of the Holocaust arrived in Britain today after being asked to leave Argentina.

Why is so taboo to even question the details of the holocaust ?

is there really something to hide or is this just a modern day witch hunt or lynching ?

Thomas · 02-25-2009, 10:51 AM

I don't think it's taboo ... I think it's nonsense to deny it?

So a bishop who denies history for which there is no end of material evidence, and preaches a history for which there is none, is not the most credible candidate.

Pope Benedict's outreach to the schismatic Catholics (over 150,000 of 'em) is just one of the many gestures made recently, which are never reported, because they don't fit the secular media's image of the Pope they want to promulgate (nazi/rotweiller/right-winger/hard liner, etc).

Williams' politics, a comment made years ago on a Swedish TV programme, is another example of the media only interested in showing the Catholic Church at fault.

As a Catholic, I think Williams should be stripped of his authority on the basis that he is not in communion with the Church, which acknowledges the Holocaust and condemns it ...

As a Catholic what I really want to know how the hell the curia in Rome let this happen ... doesn't anyone check these things? And how come they left Pope Benedict standing alone (as they are probe to do) when the nasty stuff hits the fan ... call me a conspiracy theorist, but my view is that Pope Benedict's 'cut the crap' attitude does not go down well among the bureaucrats in the curia.

Thomas

17th Angel · 02-25-2009, 11:25 AM

Denial of the holocaust.... If that is meant to mean, what I think it means... Anyone that has this belife is a little bit... How can I put it delicatlely... *covers his eyes with his hands then every now and then removes them from his eyes and looks around in amazment and makes a 'Cuckoo Cuckoo' noise.*

It seems all a bit too Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf....... You remember him guys.... Here image to jog the mind...

Imagine that was a mirror... Do you really want to look that retarded??

Go in peace my child.

nativeastral · 02-25-2009, 11:48 AM

we should never forget those atrocious massacres in fact the whole massworldmedia should plaster the front pages with such images especially in trouble spots where authorities seem to justify killing innocents willy nilly, thinking of middle east,israel et al here, how ironically perverse humans can be,psychology tells a few truths ie the abused becomes the abuser and no religion seems to be guilt free here.

Janz · 02-25-2009, 03:31 PM

I don't know how anyone in their right mind can deny the Holocaust. When I was ten years old I visited Dachau Concentration Camp Memorial site in Germany. Words cannot describe what I experienced when I walked through the barracks, the site of the grave honoring thousands of unknown innocents; the crematorium, etc.

Never Again. Never Again.

Dachau concentration camp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Plus let us not forgot there were 5 million Non-Jews who perished as well.

Holocaust - Non-Jewish Victims of the Holocaust - Pictures - Stories

Postmaster · 02-25-2009, 03:44 PM

Yeah many non Jews were mindlessly murdered as well. Polish, Freemasons, Romany’s to name afew! Anyone non German could have been a potential victim.... It’s truly sick that we as humans allowed such a thing to happen. This happened under secrecy of an elite, probably the darkest part of human history which I hope will never happen again and it did happen. God bless.. http://www.ushmm.org/

GlorytoGod · 02-25-2009, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamarz

I don't know how anyone in their right mind can deny the Holocaust. When I was ten years old I visited Dachau Concentration Camp Memorial site in Germany. Words cannot describe what I experienced when I walked through the barracks, the site of the grave honoring thousands of unknown innocents; the crematorium, etc.

Never Again. Never Again.

Dachau concentration camp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Plus let us not forgot there were 5 million Non-Jews who perished as well.

Holocaust - Non-Jewish Victims of the Holocaust - Pictures - Stories

If you read the article I posted I dont think he was saying it never happened just questioning the facts.

Perhaps the title of this thread is a bit misleading.

17th Angel · 02-25-2009, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GlorytoGod

Perhaps the title of this thread is a bit misleading.

A bit?

lol...... Every reply has been in reference to denying the holocaust, hence 'Holocaust Denial'.... A change of title may help if you don't want replies to this reference.

citizenzen · 02-25-2009, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GlorytoGod

is there really something to hide...

This is such a common human reaction, just read Nick_A's posts in the Obama Birth Certificate thread.

The notion that any gaps in evidence or questions of detail indicate that people are hiding something is the cornerstone of most conspiracy theories.

Perhaps GtG could offer his/her opinion of what is being hidden and why, rather than merely cast doubt without evidence.

And I'm not interested in follow your link, GtG. I want to know your opinion in your own words.

wil · 02-25-2009, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GlorytoGod

If you read the article I posted I dont think he was saying it never happened just questioning the facts.

Perhaps the title of this thread is a bit misleading.

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He is reported to have claimed in a television interview last month that historical evidence suggested there "were no gas chambers" and that only 300,000 Jews died in Nazi concentration camps

No it appears your title is not misleading...if he said that.

GlorytoGod · 02-25-2009, 04:19 PM

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Holocaust-denying bishop lands in UK after expulsion from Argentina | World news | guardian.co.uk

"Historical evidence is at issue, not emotions. And if I find this evidence, I will correct myself. But that will take time," the disgraced bishop said.

it would seem that no one is allowed to dispute historical evidence without being lynched

Francis king · 02-25-2009, 05:26 PM

it's not a case of disputing historical evidence- it's a different matter entirely...

we know how many concentration camps were liberated.. we know how many emaciated walking corpses stumbled through the barbed wire afterwards, we know people were gassed and had their hair removed to make fur lined boots for german troops, we know how many gold filled teeth were smashed out the heads of the dead, we know how many pairs of spectacles were piled up after their owners were liberated from their bodies by savage means... we know all this because the germans kept meticulous records...

none of these things are to be disputed. These events occurred. Let's forget it wsn't just jews- it was communists, gays, cripples, and gypsies too.

Now, unfortunately there are people who actively promote another version of events. A version of events where not so many people died, where not so many people were gassed.

And they are all Nazi sympathisers.

No point trying to dress it up. For people to suggest "it wasn't that bad" implies the jews are lying, it implies the jews have an agenda, it implies all the racial stereotyping of jews which was common in the nazi era was correct, which then, by extension, also suggests the nazi's had a point...

....as for the current pope... he's been accused of such things too, i.e., being a nazi... so he has to distance himself from such things publically, doesn't he?

17th Angel · 02-25-2009, 05:32 PM

Yeah and stop wearing dresses.... He'll never shake the nancy name calling til that day..... What a nancy boy.

citizenzen · 02-25-2009, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GlorytoGod

it would seem that no one is allowed to dispute historical evidence without being lynched

Hmmm... I asked you for your thoughts in a very reasonable tone.

I don't see anybody calling for a hanging.

I'd just like to know what's on your mind.

Excuse me a second...

Dang...

These nooses are always hard to get right.

Faithfulservant · 02-25-2009, 07:20 PM

lol seems Glory gets lynched for posting an article someone else wrote.