| Belief and Spirituality General thinking beyond the boundaries of religion and organised belief |
04-01-2005, 10:16 PM
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I am oblivion
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Re: How did you choose?
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Originally Posted by Quahom1
Weeellll, obviously you are welcome here, surrounded by a whole bunch of people of varying spiritual beliefs!
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 Why do you think my computer is one of the best places to be? Its the best place to speek to people
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04-01-2005, 10:45 PM
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I could while away...
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Re: How did you choose?
Geist,
I'm going to go out on a limb here, and I may be way off, but it seems that you have suffered a great deal. I see some deep wounds that have left you feeling distanced from others, and maybe even abandonded. As a result it is easy to feel angry and resentful toward a world that seems cold, harsh, and unforgiving. Trust has not come easy for you and when there are overtures by another professing comfort or friendship, the first thought may be: "Whats your angle here?" , or something like that.
Am I wrong?
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04-01-2005, 10:59 PM
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I am oblivion
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Re: How did you choose?
not really keep asuming I'll tell you when you start getting cold.
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04-01-2005, 11:21 PM
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Re: How did you choose?
I like Dauer's point too. I learn alot engaging in these conversations.
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04-01-2005, 11:24 PM
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I could while away...
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Re: How did you choose?
No assumptions here friend, that would be arrogant. I'm certainly fishing here but the part about you feeling separate from others may not be so far fetched. The reason I bring all this up is that your search for religion, and the responses given to the rather thoughtful suggestions here makes me think that there is a more visceral need to be addressed. Can this be found in a spiritual setting? Yes, but not without a more concise awareness of what it is you most need. Again, this is said with the knowledge that I could be wrong ,but my experience counseling people tells me that I am not too far off.
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04-02-2005, 12:20 AM
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Re: How did you choose?
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Originally Posted by Geist
Why do you pity me?
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i don't really. i think it is funny that God never helps you but He helps me & other people all the time  .
i am changing my religion this month to the TEMPLE OF MEAN ANGRY PEOPLE. that way i can be a cruel, evil, mean, selfish, self centered person, instead of trying to be nice, kind & loving to those i meet.
but just for one month then i am switching back.
have you ever tried the religion of Hoochie Koochie MoochIE?? you have to have black hair to join.
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04-02-2005, 12:50 AM
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Re: How did you choose?
This is a loaded topic. My quest for truth has led me to various places. At one point I searched for truth in drugs and alcohol. The search really picked up when I put those things down. The high I felt was good but artificial. God filled me with his prescence and grace when I was totally broken and it was real and long lasting. I prayed to whatever would listen to me at the time and God answered. After that I was led to Christian circles on and off for over a decade. I found some answers in the church and others were not answered there.
Today I am not a practicing Christian but I do hold dear many things I learned and felt there, I haven't written them off either. I just felt that the teachings of God as a whole were not complete. I knew there was more and that some of the things I heard couldn't be true; such as everybody who doesn't believe in Jesus as God is going to hell. I walked away from that belief and am walking on virgin soil, looking for goodness in various faiths. As a note I found Bah'ai very interesting.
I am finding that as Jesus said,"the kingdom of God is within you", is very true. I'll tell you something, honestly seek God and you will be led in the right direction. Don't allow fear to creep into your mind, satan isn't causing you to ask questions, you are asking questions because something inside of you knows there is more. Don't give up.
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04-02-2005, 02:18 AM
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Enjoying the Journey
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Re: How did you choose?
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Originally Posted by dauer
Geist,
Find a cause that matters to you and dedicate yourself to it. Spirituality from above might come later. But spirituality from below is what really makes a difference in this world.
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I just wanted to say that I found this post very touching and I completely agree. It isn't all about finding God, in my opinion. It's also about finding our deeper self and our potential in service to others.
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04-02-2005, 02:29 AM
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What was the question?
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Re: How did you choose?
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Originally Posted by path_of_one
I just wanted to say that I found this post very touching and I completely agree. It isn't all about finding God, in my opinion. It's also about finding our deeper self and our potential in service to others.
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"Trees and stones will teach you that which you can never learn from masters." - St Bernard
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The wisdom found in solitude is profound, but I miss my friends...
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04-02-2005, 02:46 AM
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Re: How did you choose?
I love solitude. Being out in nature is being away from society, but it isn't being alone for me. I find trees and animals make wonderful friends.
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04-02-2005, 04:34 AM
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What was the question?
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Re: How did you choose?
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Originally Posted by didymus
This is a loaded topic. My quest for truth has led me to various places. At one point I searched for truth in drugs and alcohol. The search really picked up when I put those things down. The high I felt was good but artificial. God filled me with his prescence and grace when I was totally broken and it was real and long lasting. I prayed to whatever would listen to me at the time and God answered. After that I was led to Christian circles on and off for over a decade. I found some answers in the church and others were not answered there.
Today I am not a practicing Christian but I do hold dear many things I learned and felt there, I haven't written them off either. I just felt that the teachings of God as a whole were not complete. I knew there was more and that some of the things I heard couldn't be true; such as everybody who doesn't believe in Jesus as God is going to hell. I walked away from that belief and am walking on virgin soil, looking for goodness in various faiths. As a note I found Bah'ai very interesting.
I am finding that as Jesus said,"the kingdom of God is within you", is very true. I'll tell you something, honestly seek God and you will be led in the right direction. Don't allow fear to creep into your mind, satan isn't causing you to ask questions, you are asking questions because something inside of you knows there is more. Don't give up.
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...nothing "loaded" about it. How did you choose? That was a simple question.  You gave a great answer.
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04-02-2005, 05:46 AM
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Re: How did you choose?
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Originally Posted by path_of_one
I love solitude. Being out in nature is being away from society, but it isn't being alone for me. I find trees and animals make wonderful friends. 
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yah i like that too. i can become so one with nature. like last year i was very one. so one it gave me a very bad case of poison ivy.
i am looking for it to pop up again this year in my yard.
one of my favorites is seeing the billions of rays filter through the trees.
i love the solitude also.
welcome to CR pathofone
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04-02-2005, 04:52 PM
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Enjoying the Journey
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Re: How did you choose?
Thanks for the welcome!
Yeah, it is best we sometimes become one with nature metaphorically, and not physically! LOL
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04-02-2005, 08:30 PM
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I am oblivion
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Re: How did you choose?
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Originally Posted by Paladin
but my experience counseling people tells me that I am not too far off.
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wow online srinks..
But I think your mistaken I have no "visceral " need for religion. Its cruriosity more than anything.
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Originally Posted by Path_of_One
I love solitude.
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I like being on my own to. But I prefer being alone in cities you just sit there and watch everything pass you by its diffreant in the countryside theres a certain stillness there thats diffreant to being inna city.
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04-02-2005, 09:33 PM
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What was the question?
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Re: How did you choose?
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Originally Posted by Geist
wow online srinks..
But I think your mistaken I have no "visceral " need for religion. Its cruriosity more than anything.
I like being on my own to. But I prefer being alone in cities you just sit there and watch everything pass you by its diffreant in the countryside theres a certain stillness there thats diffreant to being inna city.
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Pretty smart for a whelp  (kidding. ad nauseum). If you can take sailor's humor, you can take on anything the world brings at you.
Everyone has needs, including a "religion" of some type. Your own "curiosity" tells us you have need for something. Whether it is to know, or to find out...there is need there.
Hell, I have needs. CR fullfils alot of that particular area of need.
Ask your questions.
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