I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul - Page 5

greymare · 03-29-2008, 12:59 AM

cos, you lot have everything arse about face, thats why. lol

cyberpi · 03-29-2008, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Quahom1

You know as well as me that there is no such animal as "uni-directional" COC. The other name for it is "chaos" or "anarchy"

Uni-directional: Orders, promotions, authority, responsibility, pay... all in one direction. Where is God in the chain-of-command?

Chaos? Chaos is often good. I look at transportation, communication, and businesses in the world and I see a fair bit of chaos.
Anarchy? With or without God?

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Oh, and as an aside...why is it that the place where the privates eat is called the General mess, and where the Generals eat is called the "private mess"?

Where would Jesus eat?

Quahom1 · 03-31-2008, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by cyberpi

Uni-directional: Orders, promotions, authority, responsibility, pay... all in one direction. Where is God in the chain-of-command?

Chaos? Chaos is often good. I look at transportation, communication, and businesses in the world and I see a fair bit of chaos.
Anarchy? With or without God?

Where would Jesus eat?

Strange concept to apply to orders, promotions, authority, responsibility, pay, doesn't work that way. What does God have to do with any of this, but overseeing the whole of man's business? In this light he is overseer.

Jesus eats where he is welcome...enters where the door is opened to him...

greymare · 04-05-2008, 01:31 PM

back to the original words of this post........... I like them and they ring true for me

China Cat Sunflower · 06-06-2008, 06:44 AM

And this? Why is this stickied?

Chris

Quahom1 · 06-09-2008, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by China Cat Sunflower

And this? Why is this stickied?

Chris

Got a concern?

China Cat Sunflower · 06-20-2008, 02:59 PM

I'm just curious. Why are these two threads stickied in perpetuity? Got an answer?

Chris

juantoo3 · 06-21-2008, 03:53 AM

Just as reminders, Chris, just as reminders.

If you want to compose something that comes from the heart and speaks to everybody about the nature of interfaith dialogue, its value and meaning; go for it. Maybe it too will get stickied.

cyberpi · 06-25-2008, 05:55 PM

As a reminder that moderating speech by censorship and suspension is a false dichotomy that entrenches intolerance, making it more and more difficult to live peaceably with our neighbors.

juantoo3 · 06-26-2008, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by cyberpi

As a reminder that moderating speech by censorship and suspension is a false dichotomy that entrenches intolerance, making it more and more difficult to live peaceably with our neighbors.

I see some truth in this, Cyberpi, but I also think a truly wise person would self-moderate and self-censor. Unfortunately these are not skills commonly taught anymore, and are woefully lacking in many discussions on many subjects.

cyberpi · 06-27-2008, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by juantoo3

I see some truth in this, Cyberpi, but I also think a truly wise person would self-moderate and self-censor. Unfortunately these are not skills commonly taught anymore, and are woefully lacking in many discussions on many subjects.

I too am like anyone else thinking that people should, or should not do, some things. The issue is the manner in which we or they or you or I or him or her are convinced to do, or not to do, those things.

A choker chain and shock collar works great on a dog. Surely we could each dutifully wire one into our computers and hand our neighbors a remote so that we, or them, could be more effectively moderated.

juantoo3 · 06-28-2008, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by cyberpi

I too am like anyone else thinking that people should, or should not do, some things. The issue is the manner in which we or they or you or I or him or her are convinced to do, or not to do, those things.

A choker chain and shock collar works great on a dog. Surely we could each dutifully wire one into our computers and hand our neighbors a remote so that we, or them, could be more effectively moderated.

Tact is one of the finer nuanced portions of wisdom. About the only teacher I can recommend is experience, and that *only* if the student is ready and willing to receive the instruction.

cyberpi · 06-28-2008, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by juantoo3

Tact is one of the finer nuanced portions of wisdom. About the only teacher I can recommend is experience, and that *only* if the student is ready and willing to receive the instruction.

Yes... moderating speech by censorship and suspension is a false dichotomy that entrenches intolerance because the student is neither ready, nor willing, nor the witness of any tact whatsoever.

juantoo3 · 06-29-2008, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by cyberpi

Yes... moderating speech by censorship and suspension is a false dichotomy that entrenches intolerance because the student is neither ready, nor willing, nor the witness of any tact whatsoever.

Not to mention; good teachers are also good students still capable of learning.

cyberpi · 06-29-2008, 07:23 AM

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Not to mention; good teachers are also good students still capable of learning.

Back to the point: the alleged bad teachers and bad students are also still capable of teaching and learning... as long as they have not been censored or suspended from whatever or whomever it is that they would have taught or learned from.