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Old 04-07-2005, 04:43 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Immortality, never-aging, - is it possible to achieve that?

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Does anyone know if there are any techniques (that work) that could prolong the physical youth of a person? Just imagine what you could do if you could remain young for 100s of years. All the books you could read, all the university classess you could take, all the philosophies you could learn. For those who believe in rebirth's this makes perfect sense as it could be a ticket to faster enlightment. I mean you learn all of this stuff and then you die and get reborn which makes you almost start over. Imagine if you could grow without interuptions and hindrances of old age...

Is it possible to keep your body fully functional and keep it from aging?
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Hmmm, I suppose the real question wouldn't be will I live forever, but am I truly living now?
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Hmmm, I suppose the real question wouldn't be will I live forever, but am I truly living now?
That is a good question.

Anyone remember the people in Gullivers Travel's who were able to live forever, but were blind?
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That is a good question.

Anyone remember the people in Gullivers Travel's who were able to live forever, but were blind?
My hope is to live forever this is a promise from the bible, no not in heaven ,but on the earth,as long as i try my best to be rightous in Gods eyes of course.even if i die there is still the ressurection hope. and the bible promises thst God will swallow up death forever.
With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: "Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his peoples. And God himself will be with them. And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away(Revelation 21;3-4).
He will actually swallow up death forever, and the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will certainly wipe the tears from all faces. And the reproach of his people he will take away from all the earth, for Jehovah himself has spoken [it].(Isaiah25;8)


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Rumors are that an alchemist once figured out the secret to eternal life on earth. I think that's BS, but I don't much care for this life to go on forever anyway. Much as I love this life and earth, I wouldn't want the pain of losing loved ones over and over again for all those years. And though I love learning, I don't believe my learning ends after I die, but rather that my current limitations of brain and body are lifted and my soul, provided I prepare it to do so, can more fully experience the Divine.

I do think that reincarnation happens for some people for various reasons, but I don't think people always forget everything they've learned, or even more mundane things like places they've been, people they knew, etc. It seems that for most of the people I know who remember something, it's a bunch of mundane (or sometimes traumatic) snippets and some really deep principles.

I guess I just try to really live the life I've got right now, and I also look forward to whatever God has for me after this life. Since I don't believe in eternal heaven/hell as places, I think there are lots of possibilities and a continuity of spiritual growth. I try not to expect anything in particular, but just be grateful for life and this beautiful earth, for love and the chance to learn.
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I think the problem of not having enough time to learn and grow has been very elegantly handled if you subscribe to the idea of "Soul Records" or "Akashic Records". I'm not sure if this is originally a Hindu belief or not, but what I have noticed is that God tends to provide the most simple yet profound and elegant solutions to any problem. Not that I personally subscribe to the reincarnation theory, oh, I used to but that was in a past life.
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I think the problem of not having enough time to learn and grow has been very elegantly handled if you subscribe to the idea of "Soul Records" or "Akashic Records". I'm not sure if this is originally a Hindu belief or not, but what I have noticed is that God tends to provide the most simple yet profound and elegant solutions to any problem. Not that I personally subscribe to the reincarnation theory, oh, I used to but that was in a past life.
In India there was a sect that beleived that if you could prolong your life, you would have more time for enlightment and salvation because aging, death and rebirth slows down the process. How? well when you are in your 90s dying in a hospice, you can't really do much work, nor if you are a very young child...
By prolonging your life you eliminate "unproductive" (spiritually) times and replace them with productive lifes. About "Akashic Records" (I prefer to use other terms), those things do keep lives together, but still not 100% as I would like. As I've said, all your talent and experience from previous lives wouldn't do much if you are 2 year old growing up or 95 year old barely existing even with all the machines hooked up to you.
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Rumors are that an alchemist once figured out the secret to eternal life on earth. I think that's BS, but I don't much care for this life to go on forever anyway. Much as I love this life and earth, I wouldn't want the pain of losing loved ones over and over again for all those years. And though I love learning, I don't believe my learning ends after I die, but rather that my current limitations of brain and body are lifted and my soul, provided I prepare it to do so, can more fully experience the Divine.
The alchemist who is rumoured to have succeeded in manufacturing the Philosopher's Stone and achieved an immensely long lifespan if not immortality is Nicholas Flamel. J. K. Rowling used this tidbit in her first Harry Potter novel, "Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone" (or, as it was called in the US, "Harry Potter and the Sorceror's Stone.")

There's a bio of Flamel at http://www.alchemylab.com/flamel.htm

There is a Rue Nicholas Flamel in Paris. And the historical Flamel himself founded a tavern, which I understand is still there today although it is now a restaurant named Auberge Nicholas Flamel (it's at 51 Rue de Montmorency, Paris.)
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Is it possible to keep your body fully functional and keep it from aging?
An active spiritual life and a lot of sport may help to postpone the effects of aging, in my opinion. And the laugh can do miracles, too.
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