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Old 06-20-2005, 06:14 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful

Asalaam-o-alaikum,

(Still working on it ).

Very interesting observations, PluckAli and Thipps--I really love this conversation.

So, when I named this thread and asked my original question, I did not know what I now know (not that I know very much!) But am I correct in thinking that "In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful" is a heading that is used on all Islamic written documents? (I realize, of course, that this is the English translation. Can someone translate it here? Or I suppose I could be less lazy and look it up --I just like getting the info from folks I actually sort of "know".)

Anyway, if it is indeed used on written documents--is it only on sacred writings, or is it stated on other items, such as everyday correspondence?

Thanks, everyone for your patience and kind answers--and please, if you ever see me using Islamic terms in a wrong way, please make sure and let me know.

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Old 06-20-2005, 07:42 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful

In many languages there are three kinds of "you".
One used with friends, children, relatives when you address one person ("thou" in old English).
Another one used in formal and polite speech when you address one person. One when you address several people.
Those two last forms are often identical.
So how are these two forms used in Arabic :
"as-salāmu `alayka" and "as-salāmu `alaykum" (not to mention the feminine and dual forms) ?
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Old 06-25-2005, 02:21 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful

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Asalaam-o-alaikum,

(Still working on it ).
Wa'Alaikum salaam,
Use two s's in the beginning so that it is written as: Assalaam-o-Alaikum. Makes for a better transliteration.
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Very interesting observations, PluckAli and Thipps--I really love this conversation.

So, when I named this thread and asked my original question, I did not know what I now know (not that I know very much!) But am I correct in thinking that "In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful" is a heading that is used on all Islamic written documents? (I realize, of course, that this is the English translation. Can someone translate it here? Or I suppose I could be less lazy and look it up --I just like getting the info from folks I actually sort of "know".)

Anyway, if it is indeed used on written documents--is it only on sacred writings, or is it stated on other items, such as everyday correspondence?

Thanks, everyone for your patience and kind answers--and please, if you ever see me using Islamic terms in a wrong way, please make sure and let me know.

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It is a starting point. To remember your Lord before you start something. I've seen it used here in saudi arabia on letterheads of university documents (no scripture whatsoever) & at the beginning of Masters & Doctoral theses even and yes ofcourse in the beginning of official/unofficial islamic books as well. We are taught even to say it before we start to eat, which is again to remember our Lord before we begin to eat; for no doubt, it is He who is The Sustainer, The Cherisher and The Provider of us all.
Hope this helped.
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Old 06-27-2005, 04:10 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful

Assalammu Alaykum everyone!

Back in my homeland, due to the long years of Ottoman influence, Muslims still use greetings among each other that are similar to those people use in Turkey. For instance we say:
a) Marhaba=hello
b) Sabah hayrulah= good morning
c) Aksham hayrulah= good evening
d) Allahimanet=God be with you (goodbye)

Since we attended religious schools we were taught to greet non-Muslims the way they greet each other. So we usually used 'secular' greetings with others in order not to offend them, but islamic greetings were very common
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Old 06-27-2005, 06:01 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Re: In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful

Assalaam-o-Alaikum! (I will just go with that for now--I added an "s")

And just so you know--Peace to All of You Here From My Heart--Praise be to Allah--

I am receiving so much great information from everyone--I do so very much want to include it in the thread in Comparative Studies--I want to make certain each time, however, that it is indeed okay to do so.

PluckyAli, Thipps, and Amica--thank you so much--have I missed anyone? And Mansio--good question there--maybe it could go on the other thread as well.

I think what I will do is this: I will prepare a post that combines my last few questions and your responses. Then I will post it here for your individual approvals? Would that work?

I will try and put that together in the next day or so (sometimes I work really slowly, and sometimes the everyday happenings of life interfere).

By the way, Amica--I think you have told me before that you live in the U.S.? Where is your original homeland? (Good to talk with you again).

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Old 06-27-2005, 01:09 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Re: In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful

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Assalaam-o-Alaikum! (I will just go with that for now--I added an "s")
Wa'Aalikum salaam,
You dont need to underline that s; I did that for you so that you wud know what i had changed.
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I am receiving so much great information from everyone--I do so very much want to include it in the thread in Comparative Studies--I want to make certain each time, however, that it is indeed okay to do so.

PluckyAli, Thipps, and Amica--thank you so much--have I missed anyone? And Mansio--good question there--maybe it could go on the other thread as well.

I think what I will do is this: I will prepare a post that combines my last few questions and your responses. Then I will post it here for your individual approvals? Would that work?
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You can use whatever I have written here. No problem. you dont need to ask me again.
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Old 06-27-2005, 01:34 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Thank you thipps--(and LOL--I pasted that 'cause I am still learning how to spell it all--that is why the "s" got underlined )

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Old 07-02-2005, 08:31 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Re: In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful

Dear PluckyAli,
Christians use a similar phrase "peace be upon you" "and also with you" at certain times during mass where they all spend a little time doing this to everybody around them(maybe not in all churchs) but when i was a Chritstian it happend in most of the churchs i went to..............Staffy
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