Is the bible corrupted.

[Dor]

Originally Posted by Silverbackman

Jesus said not even he knows when he will return in his gospels, nor the holy spirit. Only the father knows when he returns, and yet Revelation acts as if humans can somehow know when the end of days are coming.

No I believe you need to go get you a nice new copy of the KJV and read Revelation. No where if there does it say or imply exactly when it will happen but mearly signs of what is going to happen!

[mee]

So is the bible corruped,? even if men have corruped Gods pure word of truth down through the ages, it will make no difference , because Jehovah God will make sure that in the last days the true knowledge will be come abundant

[Faithfulservant]

mee.. we agee on something else!! That bridge keeps getting bigger and bigger!


Silver you are speaking of two totally different things.. Only the Father knows the MOMENT Jesus will return.. But he certainly gave us clues to watch for so we arent caught unawares.. like a thief in the night will He return.

If you are looking for inconsistancies.. you will find them if you arent willing to use some common sense...

[AbdAlRahman]

Ok but really sometimes people misunderstand verses that probably got over written , like the 4 corners of the earth , everyone knows that the earth doesent have 4 courness , maybe its a currupted verse or maybe it has a meaning .

[Dor]

Originally Posted by AbdAlRahman

Ok but really sometimes people misunderstand verses that probably got over written , like the 4 corners of the earth , everyone knows that the earth doesent have 4 courness , maybe its a currupted verse or maybe it has a meaning .

Well since you did not give a specific verse I will have to guess at which one you meant.
Isa 11:12 And he shall set up5375 an ensign5251 for the nations,1471 and shall assemble622 the outcasts5080 of Israel,3478 and gather together6908 the dispersed5310 of Judah3063 from the four4480, 702 corners3671 of the earth.776
H3671
כּנף

kânâph

kaw-nawf'

From H3670; an edge or extremity; specifically (of a bird or army) a wing, (of a garment or bed clothing) a flap, (of the earth) a quarter, (of a building) a pinnacle: - + bird, border, corner, end, feather [-ed], X flying, + (one an-) other, overspreading, X quarters, skirt, X sort, uttermost part, wing ([-ed]).

So we can see that they were not saying literal corners but the 4 extremities of the world...or the north, south, east and west for as far as you can go.

[MattWolf]

You either see God and His influence in the events of the Bible, or you don't. The epistemological snipe hunt get you nowhere. Christianity is not an academic exercise. The value of the Bible is its value TO YOU and your spiritual path. If you don't have one, the Bible's unverifiable validity is not going to change that. If you have a spiritual path then you understand the Bible's value to you.

Mostly, I find people who haven't read the Bible making a lot of claims about it.

[Faithfulservant]

Yes.. and they get the same tripe from the exact same anti-bible/anti-Christianity websites.. Its like this never ending circle of useless debates that never gets anywhere other than someone promoting their religion and dogging on this one.

As soon as this guy gets tired of telling us our bible is corrupt he is probably going to start on the trinity.

Sometimes they are diplomatic and you can tell they learned how to evangelize properly.. they will try to show the similarities in the two faiths then gradually introduce their beliefs then show the discrepancies in this one..

Trust me I know the routine..Ive used it myself

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Faithfulservant

Yes.. and they get the same tripe from the exact same anti-bible/anti-Christianity websites.. Its like this never ending circle of useless debates that never gets anywhere other than someone promoting their religion and dogging on this one.

As soon as this guy gets tired of telling us our bible is corrupt he is probably going to start on the trinity.

Sometimes they are diplomatic and you can tell they learned how to evangelize properly.. they will try to show the similarities in the two faiths then gradually introduce their beliefs then show the discrepancies in this one..

Trust me I know the routine..Ive used it myself

No, I assure you...this will not continue.

v/r

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[BlaznFattyz]

you know many sayings in other languages and other cultures make sense when you think in that language, in addition to that they also have poetic ways to say things. latin languages (one of my languages) as well as arabic and greek languages have many of these saying i am referring to. i guess its hard for people that only speak english to understand. the point im making is saying "four corners of the earth" isnt really wrong, its just a saying that probably has lost its translation to us after all these years.

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by BlaznFattyz

you know many sayings in other languages and other cultures make sense when you think in that language, in addition to that they also have poetic ways to say things. latin languages (one of my languages) as well as arabic and greek languages have many of these saying i am referring to. i guess its hard for people that only speak english to understand. the point im making is saying "four corners of the earth" isnt really wrong, its just a saying that probably has lost its translation to us after all these years.

yah. like maybe it means north, south, east & west.

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Bandit

yah. like maybe it means north, south, east & west.

How about length, width, depth and time?

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

How about length, width, depth and time?

yes.

and maybe earth, wind, fire, water? that seems to go along with it.

i was also thinking of paper rock siscors, but that is only three corners.

[mee]

The number four is often used to denote that which is fully rounded out,in the bible it can signifies universalness or foursguareness in symmetry....rev 4;6...7;1-2....9;14....20;8....21;16

[enton]

Originally Posted by AbdAlRahman

Hello , this topic is only to discuss if the bible is curropted , and i will only provide verses that come from the bible , here is the place to explain if the verses are misunderstood and all.

First of all when i say " The Bible " im talking about all the versions that exsist .

Firstly i saw a site and a forum that said that there is several or seven false bibles :

NINew International VersionNASNew American Standard VersionNKJNew King James VersionRSRevised Standard VersionNRSNew Revised Standard VersionLBThe Living BibleNCNew Century Version OTHR Other New Ones
I got this from a site off google so just google " false bibles " and you will get some sites.

Its really sad becouse i have a NI bible i took from a hospital , becouse some of the nurses there use it , and they used it for some time becouse it looks old , so its just sad.

Anyway thats one point , if all of those are false bibles , then how do we know there is an untouched bible .

Here are some QUOTES people use :
I wish somone can explain them

"`How can you say, "We [the Jews] are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?' (From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"

"How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it (i.e., the bible) into a LIE.(From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"


Note: This gospel is the oldest and supposedly the most original one in the New Testament!


"Although there is no direct internal evidence of authorship, it was the unanimous testimony of the early church that this Gospel was written by John Mark. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1488)"

"Serious doubts exists as to whether these verses belong to the Gospel of Mark. They are absent from important early manuscripts and display certain peculiarities of vocabulary, style and theological content that are unlike the rest of Mark. His Gospel probably ended at 16:8, or its original ending has been lost. (From the NIV Bible Foot Notes, page 1528)"

And something about pouls lies and all , let us just focuse on the quotes above.

"and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth--Gog and Magog--to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore. (From the NIV Bible, Revelation 20:8)"


Thanks if you dont delete it

Is the Bible corrupted?

Let us consult the Bible!

1. 2 Corinthians 2:17 For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.
2. Isaiah 34:16 Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth it hath commanded, and his spirit it hath gathered them.

No! The Bible is not corrupted or else it will produce killer-believers, like what Paul said that there are others who thought that they did God's will if they kill people.

[wil]

Originally Posted by enton

Is the Bible corrupted?

Let us consult the Bible!

1. 2 Corinthians 2:17 For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.
2. Isaiah 34:16 Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth it hath commanded, and his spirit it hath gathered them.

No! The Bible is not corrupted or else it will produce killer-believers, like what Paul said that there are others who thought that they did God's will if they kill people.

We can't consult the bible to determine if the bible is corrupted. Or if we can, I'd like to tell you that all my posts are not just my opinion but orders given by the high priestess that rules Zor, and our universe is simply a pixel on Zor's superultrahidef screen. Therefor no one may deny or dispute any of my posts....of course you realize how you wouldn't accept that as proof...