Is there only one true God ?

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[China Cat Sunflower]

When terms like "Most High God" are used in the Bible, or when God commands that there will be no having of other Gods before him, doesn't that imply that there are other Gods below and after J. God? When the statue of Dagon (I think) fell down before the ark of the covenant after it had been captured in battle by the Hebrew's enemies, wasn't that a sign of submission?

Who are these other Gods? What can they do as far as God-power stuff? Do they all obey the Most High God, or are they in rebellion against Him, or... what?

Chris

[Muslimwoman]

Originally Posted by mee

The prophet Isaiah recorded God’s own words when he said: “Before me there was no God formed, and after me there continued to be none. I—I am Jehovah, and besides me there is no savior.”—Isaiah 43:10, 11.

How very intriguing. So doesn't this mean that G-d is the saviour of mankind and not Jesus (pbuh)??

I believe there is only one G-d and He is the G-d of the Jews, Christians, Muslims and anyone that seeks Him through spirituality.

Unfortunately many people just add their own bits on the end and want to be in their own gang. However that does not change the nature of G-d, He is still Him.

[mee]

Originally Posted by Muslimwoman

How very intriguing. So doesn't this mean that G-d is the saviour of mankind and not Jesus (pbuh)??

Jesus plays a very very big part in the outworking of Gods purpose for the earth . and Jehovah is the one that has GIVEN Jesus great aurthority.Daniel 7;13-14...Jehovah is known as .......... (the ancient of days) in DANIEL 7;13-14and he has given the (son of man ) who is Jesus christ great aurthority.this ancient of days is the most high .



and when Jesus has accomplished everything he will hand the kingdom back to his father . as we can read in 1 corinthians 15.24-28


24 Next, the end, when he hands over the kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power. 25 For he must rule as king until [God] has put all enemies under his feet. 26 As the last enemy, death is to be brought to nothing. 27 For [God] “subjected all things under his feet.” But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that it is with the exception of the one who subjected all things to him. 28 But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.



Yes Jesus is Gods son and Jehovah is his father, John 3;16 and these two are in unity of purpose, and Jesus is the one that is being used in a grand way . Jesus certainly is the one to look to .and now in these the last days he has recieved his kingship and there is no salvation in any one else

[cyberpi]

Originally Posted by Muslimwoman

How very intriguing. So doesn't this mean that G-d is the saviour of mankind and not Jesus (pbuh)??

I believe there is only one G-d and He is the G-d of the Jews, Christians, Muslims and anyone that seeks Him through spirituality.

Unfortunately many people just add their own bits on the end and want to be in their own gang. However that does not change the nature of G-d, He is still Him.

Muslimwoman that was well placed. Would you say that those extra added bits went something like, "... last messenger"? Afterall if a person prays to God and expects no answer, then is it really God that they are praying to? But if there is an answer that puts an end to the "last" in "last messenger".

[mee]

[quote=Linker;131190]But...please notice what scripture says in the book of Genesis...you have...

Ge 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.



Ge 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
/quote]


The power to create comes from the true God Jehovah , and as the bible tells us Jesus lived in heaven with his father Jehovah before being born as a man on earth,

so Jehovah was talking to his son when it says in genesis LET US make man, yes,Gods son was the only one created by Jehovah alone, but everything else was created through his son Jesus . the plural that you mention is plural of majesty or exellence, not of many Gods, there is only one true God and PSALM 83;18 tells us who that is .JEHOVAH THE MOST HIGH

[mee]

Originally Posted by China Cat Sunflower

When terms like "Most High God" are used in the Bible, or when God commands that there will be no having of other Gods before him, doesn't that imply that there are other Gods below and after J. God? When the statue of Dagon (I think) fell down before the ark of the covenant after it had been captured in battle by the Hebrew's enemies, wasn't that a sign of submission?

Who are these other Gods? What can they do as far as God-power stuff? Do they all obey the Most High God, or are they in rebellion against Him, or... what?

Chris

many make them selves into gods, or think they are ,satan is a prime example , he has set himself up as a God and many have been misled by him . and he is working in opposition to the true God . people even make so called gods out of wood and stone but they are nothing but wood and stone

[17th Angel]

Originally Posted by Linker

Christianity is the only "religion" that shows God as being just in forgiving/pardoning sinners since the sin of the sinner that is pardoned was condemned in Christ - we have a just Judge!!

Well.... Yeah lol its christianity.... So it will be the only religion to show via christ.... However It is -not- the only religion that shows God to be a forgiving being........

[Dondi]

I may as well relinquish my place here and pray that you might repent from your idolatry.

Wow, Linker. I must say that is rather blunt. What is your definition of idolatry?

For the most part, I think most people on this forum are just honestly trying to work things out. Figure out what the truth is. Exploring the possibilities. But when someone comes freshly in and starts calling everyone idolaters, it immediately builds a wall between you and the message you are trying to convey. People are immediately get put on the defensive, and that is counterproductive. This is not a forum to evangelize, but to share ideas.

You could learn a lesson from Paul when he spoke on Mars Hill:

"Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars' hill, and said, Ye men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious.
For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you.
God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;
And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:" - Acts 17:22-27

Here, Paul acknowledges the universal aspect of God in all places, all cultures, and all times. He set everyone where and when they are born. And he recognizes that God is not far from any of us. That we should seek God where we are at. Paul does throws a bone pointing to Christ as redeemer, but he doesn't shove it out there to argue over. Rather he has given the people of Athen something to chew over. Now some mocked Paul, but others replied that they will think this matter over, still others believed. But it wasn't Paul's intention to debate the issue, for he left.

If you have a statement of your faith, please feel free to share it. But two way communication is the key to understanding. If you do not respect the beliefs of others sincerely trying to seek God, then they will not respect yours.

[Dondi]

Originally Posted by Muslimwoman

How very intriguing. So doesn't this mean that G-d is the saviour of mankind and not Jesus (pbuh)??

I believe there is only one G-d and He is the G-d of the Jews, Christians, Muslims and anyone that seeks Him through spirituality.

Unfortunately many people just add their own bits on the end and want to be in their own gang. However that does not change the nature of G-d, He is still Him.

The way Christians see this is that God is the Savior, and the method He used to save mankind is through Christ. So Christ is the Savior sent from God. The whole operation is ordained by God. It's sorta a family run business. We have a furniture place called Doyle's. And while the father started the business, the sons run the operation. They are his hands and feet. But he is ultimately in charge and he makes the rules on how to make the business work in order that the name Doyle will have integrity and a good reputation.

[mee]

Originally Posted by Dondi

The way Christians see this is that God is the Savior, and the method He used to save mankind is through Christ. So Christ is the Savior sent from God. The whole operation is ordained by God. It's sorta a family run business. We have a furniture place called Doyle's. And while the father started the business, the sons run the operation. They are his hands and feet. But he is ultimately in charge and he makes the rules on how to make the business work in order that the name Doyle will have integrity and a good reputation.

yes thats right , and Jesus was taught by his God and father, and never tried to be equal with him.

Jesus knew that he was not equal to his Father but in every way was in a subordinate position. He knew that he was a beloved Son who had deep love for his Father. That is why, time and again, Jesus made statements such as the following: “The Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he beholds the Father doing.” (John 5:19) “I have come down from heaven to do, not my will, but the will of him that sent me.” (John 6:38) “What I teach is not mine, but belongs to him that sent me.” (John 7:16) “I know him [God], because I am a representative from him, and that One sent me forth.” (John 7:29) The one who does the sending is the superior. The one who is sent is the lesser, the servant. God is the sender. Jesus is the one who is sent. They are not the same. As Jesus expressed it: “A slave is not greater than his master, nor is one that is sent forth greater than the one that sent him.”—John 13:16.

[harfim]

The word "true" belies the question. If the question is re-phrased as "Is there one God", my answer would be, "NO, but there is only one Creator." The Creator is referred to by the various relions by the name that particular religon is identified with. "God" would be Christian name for The Creator: "Allah" for the Muslims: "Siva" for the Hindus: and so on.

Only The Creator can create. Man can only discover what the Creator has created. What The Creator has created is not visible till Man discovers it. For instance, the wheel was an existing concept hidden from Man, till Man discovered it and used it for his benefit. Likewise everything else in this wide, wide universe. Einstein did not create, he discovered!

I would very much welcome opinions/comments contrary to my presentation. I am open to constructive criticism!

[harfim]

The word "true" belies the question. If the question is re-phrased as "Is there one God", my answer would be, "NO, but there is only one Creator." The Creator is referred to by the various relions by the name that particular religon is identified with. "God" would be Christian name for The Creator: "Allah" for the Muslims: "Siva" for the Hindus: and so on.

Only The Creator can create. Man can only discover what the Creator has created. What The Creator has created is not visible till Man discovers it. For instance, the wheel was an existing concept hidden from Man, till Man discovered it and used it for his benefit. Likewise everything else in this wide, wide universe. Einstein did not create, he discovered!

I would very much welcome opinions/comments contrary to my presentation. I am open to constructive criticism!

[harfim]

Nothing!

[harfim]

What Buddha have said - Nothing!