Is Truth Relative... - Page 2

Conscience · 04-20-2005, 07:34 PM

Truth isn't relative. Our perception of Truth is relative."

EXACTLY! The only certain barrier to truth is the presuption that we already have it. That is why we must drop our preconcieve notions and honeslty reason, without having an alter motive. Sometimes its better to listen, than to talk. But of course, who wants to listen? Its seems to boring, I guess? It seems that everyone has something to say lately. For me, I've found that to find truth, we have to look to the man who claimed to be the incarnate of truth -- Jesus. Before I met him, I thought like most of the world. I thought that truth was relative. Also, my truth came from minor seeking, and spurioius thinking of "wise men" that agreed with my own speculation. After I meet Jesus though, things changed. Jesus made a promise when he said, if you look for him, he will show up and prove truth to you. I can testify to that. You see, it happened to me. That said, some have seen other religous figures. Some have seen Mohammad, Buddaha, etc. And, these beings told them what those people believe to be truth. Like me, they had a real encounter with the super natural. But, like me, these people's story always conflict and contradict with each other. I got that Jesus is the Only way, they got that Jesus is a way, or not a way at all.

Again, God is not about confussion. Who recieved the truth?

Who believes that?

Abogado del Diablo · 04-20-2005, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Conscience

Again, God is not about confussion. Who recieved the truth?

Again, everyone did, they just aren't listening to one another.

lunamoth · 04-20-2005, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Abogado del Diablo

First, that's a tautology and not a "truth." Second, if this is so then how can 1+1+1=1?

1 x 1 x 1 =

lunamoth

truthseeker · 04-20-2005, 07:42 PM

If you find the world around you to be much to difficult to understand, then you will resort to your own truths. Some relative, some absolute. Once you understand that no one hand holds all truth but that you have two hands that are different but the same, then the world begins to open up and truth takes on a higher level of understanding. Truth is absolute. How you apply it to your life is relative.

Abogado del Diablo · 04-20-2005, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by lunamoth

1 x 1 x 1 =

lunamoth

Naw, 1+1+1=1.

Conscience · 04-20-2005, 07:43 PM

"Again, everyone did, they just aren't listening to one another."

Please explain. Prehaps you can teach us something.

lunamoth · 04-20-2005, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Abogado del Diablo

Naw, 1+1+1=1.

1 + 1 + 1 = green

lunamoth

Abogado del Diablo · 04-20-2005, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Conscience

Please explain. Prehaps you can teach us something.

Who is "us"?

lunamoth · 04-20-2005, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Abogado del Diablo

Naw, 1+1+1=1.

On another thought, I do like your equation. Can't get there using just one's head.

lunamoth

truthseeker · 04-20-2005, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Conscience

"Again, everyone did, they just aren't listening to one another."

Please explain. Prehaps you can teach us something.

Everybody seems to understand but you. Perhaps because you are looking for key information to dispute instead of recieving the common ground.

Abogado del Diablo · 04-20-2005, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by lunamoth

On another thought, I do like your equation. Can't get there using just one's head.

lunamoth

Conscience · 04-20-2005, 07:58 PM

Everybody seems to understand but you. Perhaps because you are looking for key information to dispute instead of recieving the common ground.

The latter part is TRUE, I wont lie. But, I still havent seen where you said explained anything. You're gonna have to put up with me, I may be a little slow. Can you repost what you said?

Thanks!

brucegdc · 04-20-2005, 10:02 PM

I think that truth is absolute. However, it's also infinite and our capacity to understand is finite, so we cannot perceive the whole truth, and everything else is relative.

It is true that the cup is blue. However, you may see a green cup and argue that I am wrong because the cup is green - while not seeing both the blue and green are correct, and part of the overall truth.

Does that help?

truthseeker · 04-20-2005, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by brucegdc

I think that truth is absolute. However, it's also infinite and our capacity to understand is finite, so we cannot perceive the whole truth, and everything else is relative.

It is true that the cup is blue. However, you may see a green cup and argue that I am wrong because the cup is green - while not seeing both the blue and green are correct, and part of the overall truth.

Does that help?

truthseeker · 04-20-2005, 10:55 PM

I'd like to take a crack at explaining too.

Jesus spoke parables. See, if you understand, when you read the Gospels, how the different authors understand Jesus, then you will begin to see His miracles in a different manner. You will begin to hear His ministry in a different manner. You just can't pull scriptures and interpret them because the Bible is a whole book.

Have you ever looked at a child and thought that that child had been here before? Or that you knew someone though you never met them. Christianity would like to call it discerning of spirits. But Buddhists understand that on a deeper level. The truth is a whole truth in which humans are trying to figure it out through religion, science, sociology, psychology... But because we are so limited it is difficult to find a philospher who has a doctorate degree in physics.