it might be too late for me - Page 3

shadowman · 10-11-2006, 08:15 PM

what if it seems like i have gifts or blessings, like i have soul for black and world music, i dont know. it seems i am pretty good at singing now.

Quahom1 · 10-11-2006, 08:45 PM

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what if it seems like i have gifts or blessings, like i have soul for black and world music, i dont know. it seems i am pretty good at singing now.

Interesting. It is said that a prayer to God sung, is 10 times more powerful than one spoken...and all the choirs of angels of heaven stop to listen in awe, to the lone voice of a repentent and grateful man, singing his thanks for salvation. For it is the one thing they can not comprehend...and it is the most beautiful melody God's ears ever hear...

shadowman · 10-12-2006, 06:05 PM

how do i know that i didnt get unholy gifts from the devil

moseslmpg · 10-12-2006, 07:58 PM

I think what matters is what you do with the gifts. I don't think there is any surefire way to tell the difference between God given charisms and stuff from the Devil.

juantoo3 · 10-12-2006, 08:58 PM

Kindest Regards, shadowman, welcome to CR!

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how do i know that i didnt get unholy gifts from the devil

Gotta go with Moseslmpg on this one, a gift is a gift, neither holy or not. (Couldn't be strictly Holy if touched by humans anyway...) What we do with a gift is what determines "holy" or not.

InLove · 10-12-2006, 09:28 PM

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how do i know that i didnt get unholy gifts from the devil

shadowman, the "devil" doesn't really own anything. So he cannot really give gifts. Whatever talents or gifts you have are either things you were born with or things you have developed.

You are not evil just because you are an artist. You can dedicate your "works" to Satan, and they won't do any good. You can dedicate them to Love, and they will. Or you can just play your music and sing.

InPeace,
InLove

China Cat Sunflower · 10-13-2006, 01:40 AM

So Shadow...what do you feel drawn to do with your evil gifts? You could be an evil genius!

Chris

Dondi · 10-13-2006, 02:15 PM

Shadowman,

God's not looking to just "save" you. He is looking to transform you into the image of His Son. The difference between one who is "saved" and one who is "lost" doesn't boil down to one choice of "accepting Christ" one day and then everything is honky-dory. Because it really if a lifetime of choices built one upon another. Each time we choose to disobey God, we are picking the apple all over again. Trouble is that we lack the capacity to choose correctly, even Adam and Eve in their pre-fallen state lacked the capacity to choose correctly, BECAUSE they didn't choose the Tree of Life FIRST (that is the Life and Spirit of God). The ability to obey God is not in us naturally.

We have a system crash. There is a virus that permeates our very being, and it causes us to sin and turn from God. It is a power that will consume us and overpower us. And we are helpless in and of ourselves to do anything about it. While God made everything good, the sin nature (the tendency to disobey God) in us keeps us away from God.

What God has done, mercifully, is correct the problem by the provision of His Spirit, that is able to indwell in us and give us the capacity to LIVE. But in order for the Spirit to live in us, our sinful nature has to be dealt with. God will not pour new wine into old wineskins.

What God has done in the work of Christ is given us the mercy and forgiveness necessary so that we are not consumed by our passions, our addictions, our lusts, our downward spiral. God is able to cleanse the slate, make us white as snow, SO THAT HIS SPIRIT CAN LIVE IN US, in new wineskins. We are able to live on God's holiness and righteousness, and not of our accord. We enter into a RELATIONSHIP with God in this manner.

People have an idea that they want to have eternal life. They want to go to heaven, but what many do not understand is that heaven is God. The LIFE in the Spirit of God IS heaven. It's right there in John 17:3:

"And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent."

So what you are saying when you say "it's too late" is that God cannot give you His Spirit. Well, you are absolutely right...AS LONG AS YOU DON'T ALLOW HIM TO!

We already start out hellbound. So you are really in no worse condition than anyone else. Do you really think you are any different than anyone else that God doesn't want to have a relationship with you? But He created you and that creation He deemed GOOD. But you seem to think that God doesn't want you. That for some reason it's too late. You think that somehow you blasphemed the Holy Spirit by selling your soul to the Devil. But you in you sinful state, which we ALL are part of that curse, don't realize that your soul is already started out going in the wrong direction. And as long as you think that there is no hope for you, you will continue in this downward spiral that you are headed in anyway.

Why don't you let God save you? The only reason for resisting is the thought that it is already too late.

Instead of listening to these voices in your head and assuming they are from God, why don't you just see what God can do in your life. Give Him a chance to prove that He can work within you to conform you into the image of His Son. It's not just a matter of saying, "Here I am God, I surrender" and expecting that everything will automatically be right in you life, but in OBEDIENCE to God with FAITH that He can cleanse you and empower you with His Spirit is a daily walk in communion with God.

There are two things God uses to bring you into conformance to His Son: His Spirit and His Word. The two go hand and hand. The Spirit works in your heart and the Word works in your mind. We have to be renewed in our minds with the mind of Christ. We must feed our minds with the good things of God through the scriptures as the Spirit works in our heart to know God experientially and know the Love of God that lights in our hearts, that we may reflect that Light to others.

It is not too late for you, shadowman, anymore than it was too late for the repentant thief on the Cross, to whom Jesus said would be with Him that day in Paradise.

But it will be too late if you don't seek God's provision for you.

17th Angel · 11-30-2006, 02:32 PM

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i really want to beleive that. i want to be forgiven.

Forgiven for what....

streetbob2006 · 12-01-2006, 03:38 AM

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what if it seems like i have gifts or blessings, like i have soul for black and world music, i dont know. it seems i am pretty good at singing now.

Shadowman, I read some of what you said, but do not have time to read everything so if I am off on anything please forgive me. THere is so much to address here, but I wanted to start with the basics.

Repent of your sin and put your faith in CHrist. That means stop doing everything you know is wrong including demonic and cultic practices. Putting your faith in Christ means believing he died for your sin.
God is good and cannot let sin go unpunished. Like a good judge would not let a murderer get away without justice. Same with GOd. He demands justice, but he loves us so much that he sent Jesus to take the punishment we deserve. We should be on that cross for our crimes, but Jesus takes our place for those who repent and place their faith in him through his atoning work.
Get on your face and cry out to GOd for forgiveness and plead with him to take away the voices. If you are sincere, he will. Do not listen to them, keep on calling to God. YOu will face resistance, but keep on pursuing. This will not be easy, for the opponent hates us with a passion, but by the power of GOd you will be healed spiritually.

streetbob2006 · 12-01-2006, 03:54 AM

There very fact your are seeking forgiveness and CHrist is evidence that the Lord is working in your life for no man seeks the LORD naturally.

streetbob2006 · 12-01-2006, 04:05 AM

THere is nothing you can do to earn heaven, it is all by Gods grace through Christ.

17th Angel · 12-12-2006, 12:33 PM

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There very fact your are seeking forgiveness and CHrist is evidence that the Lord is working in your life for no man seeks the LORD naturally.

As I previously said.... Forgiven for what?

a.adel · 12-15-2006, 07:50 PM

Its never too late to ask for forgivness.. repent now.. God is all Mercifull. It will be too late when your dead and never even asked for forgivness, theres no second chances after that.
take caare x

Quahom1 · 12-16-2006, 06:59 AM

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Its never too late to ask for forgivness.. repent now.. God is all Mercifull. It will be too late when your dead and never even asked for forgivness, theres no second chances after that.
take caare x

Up until a man's last breath...however the "rewards" most likely would be in the "slim to none" department.