Jamestown guides allegedly ordered to say 'religious' instead of 'Christian'

[wil]

According to the Williamsburg online website which lists the events going on in Jamestown (Jamestown/Yorktown are in conjunction with Colonial Williamsburg) Each month's celebration is listed begining with:

January 2007 Jamestown Quadricentennial - 400th Anniversary Celebration continues throughout the year beginning with Religious Freedom Heritage Month in January! / Jamestown Settlement and Yorktown Victory Center / Call 888-593-4682 for information

and ending with:

December 22
through 31: A Colonial Christmas - Holiday traditions from the English customs of the earliest Jamestown settlers through the desperate winters of the 18th-century American Revolution are explored. / Jamestown Settlement and Yorktown Victory Center / Call 888-593-4682 for information

Oops, what did they say?? Heaven forbid? Religious Freedom...a month of discussing religion....must not have been when the good pastor was there! And horrors of horrors in December they are celebrating Christmas??

I see this stuff has got Vision Forum Ministries to set up a march on Jamestown in June...of course that month they will be looking into the difference between the settlers culture and the native cultures...and if they don't specifically mention the Christian heritage during the discussion, woe be unto them...

If anyone ever has the urge to travel on Christmas...there is nothing like spending the holidays in Williamsburg. You stay at an inn, you travel the grounds during the day and night visiting houses of various economic classes and see how they celebrated the holidays, you visit the church and hear a recreation of the typical sermon, visit the businesses and see their preparations...all by candlelight and firelight, carolers and sleighs, it is a unique experience. Well worth doing once in your life....plan ahead, don't know how many years you'll currently have to wait to get a booking....

[pattimax]

In chemistry, He turned water to wine.
In biology, He was born without the normal conception;
In physics, He disapproved the law of gravity when He ascended into heaven;
In economics, He disapproved the law of diminishing return by feeding 5000 men with two fishes & 5 loaves of bread;
In medicine, He cured the sick and the blind without administering a single dose of drugs,
In history, He is the beginning and the end;
In government, He said that he shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Prince of Peace;
In religion, He said no one comes to the Father except through him.

SSSHHHH!

[17th Angel]

And in dramatics... He got an oscar.....

[pattimax]

Originally Posted by 17th Angel

And in dramatics... He got an oscar.....

I guess you could consider the source.

[pattimax]

Oh yeah,

[wil]

I guess the word allegedly is the most important word in the title of this thread.

[pattimax]

Good point.

[InLove]

Hi Everyone--

After a couple of nights of pretty good sleep, and after much meditation in prayer about this conversation, I have decided to respond once more. Believe me, I tried to leave things alone, but I just can't. I cannot leave this thread hanging like it is, for posterity's sake.

Patti, Q, everyone--I hope I will be forgiven for pointing out that the legend of "Pocohontas" as generally accepted in European circles is a dubious one. There are numerous versions of the story, including the one handed down orally (and now in writing) through the family of Powhaten, Matoaka's father. I see that Jamestown has attempted in recent years, to present what they call "a balanced version". However, I think that (and hopefully, this relates to "the issue"--I know it does in my eyes) if folks think it is helpful to emphasize the idea of Divine Providence in remembrance of how this nation was born, then why not also take an honest look at how the Natives experienced it. Why not explore it? If Divine Providence is for real, than whatever the Powhatens have to say can't change it, now can it? It isn't pretty, by the way, but I think that the people of this "princess" should be able to contribute. Maybe it would be good for people to compare the traditional story we all learned in elementary school, the "balanced version" coming out of Jamestown, and the version set forth by the Powhatens. And I'm not advocating a big, full-blown debate right here, either--I just think that someone ought to speak up and say what I am saying! So, I guess that is what I am doing.

I find it rather strange that a group from California comes out to Jamestown, a city which is obviously trying to work out the issue through proper channels, involving the Native views as well as the European, and gets in the middle of these negotiations. I just find it to be reactionary in nature, and I believe if these folks would look a bit farther before stirring up a kettle that is already being blended, they might see things a little clearer, and see that attempts are being made to tell the truth about our country.

Anyway, like I said, I just could not leave the thread to end the way it did. And (here I go again) I'm sorry if my views are upsetting anyone. But they are my views, and they are related to the issue set forth in the article. I feel that when a bottle such as this one is uncorked, then we should take time to taste the flavors of the ages that it contains. Some things are subtle, but there nonetheless.

InPeace,
InLove

[pattimax]

Originally Posted by InLove

Hi Everyone--

After a couple of nights of pretty good sleep, and after much meditation in prayer about this conversation, I have decided to respond once more. Believe me, I tried to leave things alone, but I just can't. I cannot leave this thread hanging like it is, for posterity's sake.

Patti, Q, everyone--I hope I will be forgiven for pointing out that the legend of "Pocohontas" as generally accepted in European circles is a dubious one. There are numerous versions of the story, including the one handed down orally (and now in writing) through the family of Powhaten, Matoaka's father. I see that Jamestown has attempted in recent years, to present what they call "a balanced version". However, I think that (and hopefully, this relates to "the issue"--I know it does in my eyes) if folks think it is helpful to emphasize the idea of Divine Providence in remembrance of how this nation was born, then why not also take an honest look at how the Natives experienced it. Why not explore it? If Divine Providence is for real, than whatever the Powhatens have to say can't change it, now can it? It isn't pretty, by the way, but I think that the people of this "princess" should be able to contribute. Maybe it would be good for people to compare the traditional story we all learned in elementary school, the "balanced version" coming out of Jamestown, and the version set forth by the Powhatens. And I'm not advocating a big, full-blown debate right here, either--I just think that someone ought to speak up and say what I am saying! So, I guess that is what I am doing.

I find it rather strange that a group from California comes out to Jamestown, a city which is obviously trying to work out the issue through proper channels, involving the Native views as well as the European, and gets in the middle of these negotiations. I just find it to be reactionary in nature, and I believe if these folks would look a bit farther before stirring up a kettle that is already being blended, they might see things a little clearer, and see that attempts are being made to tell the truth about our country.

Anyway, like I said, I just could not leave the thread to end the way it did. And (here I go again) I'm sorry if my views are upsetting anyone. But they are my views, and they are related to the issue set forth in the article. I feel that when a bottle such as this one is uncorked, then we should take time to taste the flavors of the ages that it contains. Some things are subtle, but there nonetheless.

InPeace,
InLove

I agree, things can be quite subtle. But distractions aside,
(InLove, I know you had the best of intentions and a very valid point of view)... I do not think I will say it again.

I DO appreciate that you did not leave it hanging. Thank you.

With Grace,
Karen

PS When you uncork an issue, show both sides, and leave it alone, will it go flat?

[InLove]

Hi Karen--thank you for your gracious response. The contents of the bottle will not go flat if we drink it all in. And in doing so, we drink to peace. (This is why I didn't pour it all out into the mix at one time--it could make things way too bitter.)

Again, thank you.

InPeace,
InLove,
Debora

[pattimax]

Bottoms up!