Japan? WTF?! - Page 3

enlightenment · 11-09-2007, 01:07 AM

Both are abhorent to me.

China Cat Sunflower · 11-09-2007, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Muslimwoman

One aspect of this dscussion that always interests me is what we find acceptable to kill or not. For example in the UK people kill Spring Lambs for dinner (they are just weeks old) and keep calves in crates and feed them a liquid diet until they are tender enough to kill (still as calves, not cows) but then we protest because Asian countries kill and eat cats and dogs.

Do I hear the double standard bell ringing?

Do you like cheese? Gotta "freshen" cows so they keep giving milk. Gotta do something with all the bull calves.

Chris

Muslimwoman · 11-09-2007, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by China Cat Sunflower

Do you like cheese? Gotta "freshen" cows so they keep giving milk. Gotta do something with all the bull calves.

Chris

To be honest I don't like cheese very much and rarely eat it. I see what you are saying and I agree with you. I just find the animal issue interesting in that each society seems to find it perfectly ok to do it to the animals they want to eat, while protesting about the animals others want to eat. I don't get it.

I love animals and wish everyone would stop killing them but I don't see anyone flying to the UK to protest about the way we treat and kill animals (I also noted the protestors in the video were American so would be interested to hear what protests they make about animals killed in the US).

China Cat Sunflower · 11-09-2007, 04:43 AM

But Sally, c'mon...a lovely little camembert? Pretzels? Bagels begging for cheese, hmmm?

I drank a flat sh*tload of milk when I was a kid. Can't stand the stuff now except for a wee squeeze of half and half in my morning cup. When I was twelve my family and I lived in Nairobi. We had to buy these fifty pound sacks of powdered milk. After a while you can't even tell anymore you're so deprived! My dad liked the chunks. You know, you can never mix that powdered stuff all the way down. My dad wanted his with the chunks.

Chris

China Cat Sunflower · 11-09-2007, 04:54 AM

Civilization was built by killin' animals and choppin' down trees. Just ask Ted Nugent.

If you wanna get high, sometimes you gotta start low
some people say ya got ta die some day- I got news, you never got to go...

Chris

Muslimwoman · 11-10-2007, 04:28 AM

oh milk with lumps - yummy.

The issue isn't about killing or not, it is about what we think is right or wrong to kill for food. Why is ok to kill a cow or boil a lobster alive but kill a dolphin and people fly around the world to protest? I don't get it, it is all life (or death as the case may be).

bob x · 11-10-2007, 08:29 AM

Cows are dumb. Lobsters are really dumb. Dolphins are like us.
I'm not saying whether that should or shouldn't make a difference to how people view it, but it does.

wil · 11-10-2007, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bob x

Cows are dumb. Lobsters are really dumb. Dolphins are like us.
I'm not saying whether that should or shouldn't make a difference to how people view it, but it does.

Seem like you are proposing an IQ test to determine whether humans should be harvested and consumed or not? Can you imagine all the mid term elections we'd have to accomplish after the results are in?

enlightenment · 11-10-2007, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bob x

Cows are dumb. Lobsters are really dumb. Dolphins are like us.
I'm not saying whether that should or shouldn't make a difference to how people view it, but it does.

Would rather depend on how one determined 'dumb', Bob. What you are doing is comparing different species, all of which have different abilities.

As it happens, Dolphins are not as intelligent as you think.

It's partly an urban myth that they are.

Muslimwoman · 11-11-2007, 01:48 AM

So what about cats and dogs, where do they fit on the scale of what is ok to kill and eat? Of course we in the west find this repulsive but it is normal food in the Far East. IN the UK we are horse lovers, in France horse meat is served in most restaraunts. Where do we draw the line and who decides where the line is?

greymare · 11-17-2007, 07:56 AM

as a meat eater I obviously think its ok to kill animals for meat. my earlier point was that the japanese are killing whales and other marine creatures NOT for meat (as they have a surplus) but mainly because we (in the west) think that they should not.