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08-20-2008, 12:22 PM
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FRANCE! You're next.....
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses grow by 'devious' methods, charge anti-missionaries
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Trouble is "He" has never actually said anything 
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Yeah, that depends on whom you ask.
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08-20-2008, 12:58 PM
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Rider on the storm...
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses grow by 'devious' methods, charge anti-missionaries
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Yeah, that depends on whom you ask.
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I asked the voices and they told me
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08-20-2008, 02:08 PM
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The Dangerous Dinner
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses grow by 'devious' methods, charge anti-missionaries
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I asked the voices and they told me 
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I got a message from God on television tonight.....  It had to be God's voice. There was some distinctive quality to it and I just knew.
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08-21-2008, 12:02 AM
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What was the question?
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses grow by 'devious' methods, charge anti-missionaries
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Originally Posted by Saltmeister
I got a message from God on television tonight.....  It had to be God's voice. There was some distinctive quality to it and I just knew. 
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Merle, the guys are hearing voices in the Corn fields again... 
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08-21-2008, 12:35 PM
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FRANCE! You're next.....
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses grow by 'devious' methods, charge anti-missionaries
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Merle, the guys are hearing voices in the Corn fields again...  
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Corn fields lol... That Malachi was one scary kid...
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08-26-2008, 12:35 AM
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses grow by 'devious' methods, charge anti-missionaries
Mee Been over a week and no word from the watchtowr on this thread..... sup wid da?
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08-28-2008, 05:07 PM
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses grow by 'devious' methods, charge anti-missionaries
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Mee Been over a week and no word from the watchtowr on this thread..... sup wid da?
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no word from mee because i was banned for a few weeks because others did not like my belief .  oh dear
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08-28-2008, 06:12 PM
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FRANCE! You're next.....
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses grow by 'devious' methods, charge anti-missionaries
You as well? Sorry to hear. Welcome back.
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08-28-2008, 07:24 PM
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses grow by 'devious' methods, charge anti-missionaries
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You as well? Sorry to hear. Welcome back.
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well you know how the saying goes ........ change is as good as a rest
and now i am ready to go .
i have been on another site making known the GOODNEWS  But there is always room for a bit more goodnews on here .
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08-28-2008, 07:44 PM
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses grow by 'devious' methods, charge anti-missionaries
I was wondering where you were mee
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08-29-2008, 10:43 AM
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses grow by 'devious' methods, charge anti-missionaries
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I was wondering where you were mee 
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mee is back
alive and full of GOODNEWS  from the bible
"Sing to Jehovah, bless his name. From day to day tell the good news of salvation by him."—PSALM 96:2.
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08-29-2008, 10:53 AM
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses grow by 'devious' methods, charge anti-missionaries
I have a lot of respect for Jehovah's Witnesses because they have the right attitude of wanting to be devoted to God alone (or Jehovah), and they are strongly against idolatrous practices such as praying to saints as well as fashioning icons and images of them. Everyone knows how important the Ten Commandments are, yet how easily the first two commandments are forgotten and violated:
You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them (Exodus 20:3-5)
I commend Jehovah's Witnesses for going against the mainstream culture and "orthodoxy" and instead trying to follow the commandments of Jehovah no matter how unpopular it may be with the rest of society. This is definitely the right attitude.
However, as a Muslim, I do have some major differences and objections against JW beliefs. As a Muslim, I believe that there is only One God, and He has no equal or partner. I believe that Jesus was the promised messiah, a very pious human being and a prophet, but I do not believe he should be elevated to the status of a deity or god.
The Messiah son of Mary was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their food. See how Allah does make His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth! (5:75)
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08-29-2008, 10:55 AM
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses grow by 'devious' methods, charge anti-missionaries
You believe jesus was the messiah???? Wow... I thought muslims saw him only as a prophet?
I don't see how that you view then differs much from the JW's they too see him not as god... They do see him as a messiah though.
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08-29-2008, 11:07 AM
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses grow by 'devious' methods, charge anti-missionaries
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Originally Posted by Alex P
You believe jesus was the messiah???? Wow... I thought muslims saw him only as a prophet? I don't see how that you view then differs much from the JW's they too see him not as god... They do see him as a messiah though.
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The sacred Quran teaches that Jesus was indeed the promised messiah being expected by the children of Israel. He is called as Maseeh (messiah) in many places of the Quran. He was both a prophet and messenger of Allah.
The word messiah comes from Hebrew word Moshiach which means someone who is annointed. The Israelites used to be ruled by prophets who were also kings, such as Kings David and Solomon (alaihimus salam). These kings were annointed with oil over their head. However, when the children of Israel began to turn away from the devotion to One God and began to pray to idols and copy the pagan cultures around them, God punished them by taking away their kings and allowing for foreign empires to oppress and rule over them. But God promised to them that He would redeem them and restore their king (messiah) to them. Thus Allah sent Jesus son of Mary as the expected messiah. Some believed in him while other rejected him. However, many Christians are confused as to what the messiah really is. They have elevated the messiah from being a human being chosen by God as a king into a divine "man-god".
Jehovah's Witness, unlike orthodox Christians, reject the doctrine of the trinity, which Islam also rejects. However, as far as I know, JWs still regard Jesus as the only begotten "son of God" having (God forbid) the same essence of God, and being a human manifestation of God. It is this belief which I take strong exception to.
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08-29-2008, 11:08 AM
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses grow by 'devious' methods, charge anti-missionaries
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Originally Posted by Abdillah
However, as a Muslim, I do have some major differences and objections against JW beliefs. As a Muslim, I believe that there is only One God, and He has no equal or partner. I believe that Jesus was the promised messiah,
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Yes the most high has no equal as you mentioned, and the bible informs of this .
That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah,
You alone are the Most High over all the earth.
psalm 83;18
he is the most high , but that most high who is also known as the (ANCIENT OF DAYS)has given the son of man (Jesuschrist)great aurthority as
DANIEL 7;13-14 informs us
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