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03-30-2008, 04:34 PM
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Jehovah's Witnesses grow by 'devious' methods, charge anti-missionaries
Recent success by controversial religious group Jehovah's Witnesses to bring in local Israelis has anti-missionary activists accusing the group of using devious recruitment methods. The Witnesses, as they are known, have had a presence here since the state's founding but say their active missionary work - an obligation for members - has gained traction in recent years, bringing in several hundred additional members. They now number an estimated 2,500 in Israel.
Missionary work is not illegal here, though the law forbids proselytizing to minors or proselytizing with promises of financial or material gain. Still, missionary attempts rile up many Israeli Jews. Last week, a teenager from Ariel whose family is part of the city's small Messianic Jewish community was seriously injured after a bomb, disguised as a Purim package, went off in his apartment. The incident marks what some onlookers are calling an escalation in tension between religious groups that proselytize and the ultra-Orthodox Jews who actively oppose them. Meir Cohen, coordinator of the anti-missionary department at Yad L'Achim, says his ultra-Orthodox organization receives about a dozen calls a day from people complaining about Jehovah's Witnesses who come to their door.
Accusing the Witnesses of targeting society's weaker elements, including new immigrants, the poor and the handicapped, critics blast what they call the group's devious recruitment methods. "They've mapped out all of Israeli society and then target segments that don't get attention elsewhere," said Cohen. "They introduce themselves, they smile, they are nice and they are successful. They cynically abuse people in distress and like other cults in Israel are growing." Cohen asserted they've actively proselytized in group homes for the deaf-mute, adding, "Jehovah's Witnesses, messianic Jews, scientologists all thrive here because there is no public awareness to counter them." "They target the less educated people and not the university professors," said Ruth Cohen, a former member who returned to Judaism in 2002 (see box). "In Tel Aviv, they go building to building, but in Jerusalem, they are more careful because they are terrified of the ultra-Orthodox. They target Russians, foreign workers and Arabs - but not Muslims, because that is considered too dangerous."... Cont'd
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04-09-2008, 08:15 AM
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses grow by 'devious' methods, charge anti-missionaries
MATTHEW 24;14
And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.
After these things I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands. And they keep on crying with a loud voice, saying: "Salvation [we owe] to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb."REVELATION 7;9-10
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04-09-2008, 01:45 PM
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses grow by 'devious' methods, charge anti-missionaries
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"They've mapped out all of Israeli society and then target segments that don't get attention elsewhere," said Cohen. "They introduce themselves, they smile, they are nice and they are successful.
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Heaven forbid, they are nice, they smile, they introduce themselves. They target segments that don't get attention elsewhere.
Exactly whose fault is that?
It actually almost sounds like a benefit to me. What folks should be doing.
Oh well. On another thread it was mentioned that JW that go out and witness are compensated for expenses and even paid for their time??
Mee would you think these in Israel are paid missionairies? Do you receive compensation for your efforts? Does this aspect in any way water down the message?
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04-09-2008, 03:26 PM
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses grow by 'devious' methods, charge anti-missionaries
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Heaven forbid, they are nice, they smile, they introduce themselves. They target segments that don't get attention elsewhere.
Exactly whose fault is that?
It actually almost sounds like a benefit to me. What folks should be doing.
Oh well. On another thread it was mentioned that JW that go out and witness are compensated for expenses and even paid for their time??
Mee would you think these in Israel are paid missionairies? Do you receive compensation for your efforts? Does this aspect in any way water down the message?
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LOL Jehovahs witnesses dont get paid for preaching the goodnews i think i would be a millionare by now if they did .  i have been one of Jehovahs witnesses for 23 years and i recieved free and i give free. and there is a GREAT CROWD from all nations doing the same . love for God and neighbor motivates them to work inline with the most highs purpose.
Jehovah’s Witnesses endeavor to imitate Jesus and his early disciples. They have no paid clergy. Each Witness is a minister charged with the responsibility of preaching the "good news of the kingdom" to others. (Matthew 24:14) about 7 million of them worldwide are therefore engaged in bringing "life’s water" free to the people. (Revelation 22:17) In this way, even those who "have no money" can benefit from the Bible’s message. (Isaiah 55:1) Although their worldwide work is funded by voluntary donations, they never solicit money. As true ministers of God, they are not "peddlers of the word of God," but they speak "out of sincerity, yes, as sent from God."—2 Corinthians 2:17.
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04-09-2008, 04:06 PM
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses grow by 'devious' methods, charge anti-missionaries
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Oh well. On another thread it was mentioned that JW that go out and witness are compensated for expenses and even paid for their time??
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Many threads,rumours,hersay....whatever with misinformation about the JW's, they are among one of the top in the "list" to spread lies about.... And most of those who start the lies, know it isn't the truth to begin with, sad that they must spend time and focus on trying to bring others down.... Spend such time raising others not tearing them down.
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04-12-2008, 05:52 AM
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses grow by 'devious' methods, charge anti-missionaries
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...most of those who start the lies, know it isn't the truth to begin with, sad that they must spend time and focus on trying to bring others down.... Spend such time raising others not tearing them down.
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Absolutely agreed!
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04-12-2008, 09:06 AM
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses grow by 'devious' methods, charge anti-missionaries
Jehovahs witnesses like to build others up with some GOODNEWS  from the bible .
MATTHEW 24;14 JOHN 17;3 REVELATION 21;3-5 isaiah 33;24
PSALM 37;11 PSALM 37;29 MATTHEW 5;5 DANIEL 2;44
psalm 83;18
Next, the end, when he (Jesus)hands over the kingdom to his God and Father,(Jehovah) when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power. 25 For he must rule as king until [God] has put all enemies under his feet. 26 As the last enemy, death is to be brought to nothing. 27 For [God] "subjected all things under his feet." But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that it is with the exception of the one who subjected all things to him. 28 But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.1 CORINTHIANS 15;24-28
He will actually swallow up death forever, and the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will certainly wipe the tears from all faces. And the reproach of his people he will take away from all the earth, for Jehovah himself has spoken [it].
isaiah 25;8
and it is VERY GOOD 
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04-13-2008, 08:44 PM
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses grow by 'devious' methods, charge anti-missionaries
last week in the UK a case came to court involving a dead 24 year old woman who, as a jehovahs witness, refused a blood transfusion and died... the doctors knew her wishes, and yet, being doctors, they waited til she was unconscious and asked her family if they would overturn her decision so that they could keep her alive. The parents did not, as they were JW's too... the woman, a girl really, of 24, left behind a small child, who is now being dragged up to believe the same idiocy as the rest of the JW's...
personally, if I had my way I would declare this behaviour to be no more than a sign of pretty severe mental illness, and would "section" all JW's and remove their right to decide on their own medical treatment, and while this may be unpalatable for those who think everyone should have the right to belive what they choose, I think that this action would help to save a few lives every year...
We do not allow terminally ill people to commit suicide- so why should we allow a religious group? we have no problem incarcirating without trial all those people who we deem to be mentally ill, to protect them and society when their only crime is to think differently, so why not JW's..?
suicide is a sin, according to the bible... if that is so, then how do JW's willingly kill themselves like this?
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04-14-2008, 01:05 PM
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses grow by 'devious' methods, charge anti-missionaries
here is a link to a good read How Can Blood Save Your Life?
Presents moral and medical aspects regarding the use of blood, and shows how this bears on saving your most valued possession: LIFE. Illustrated.
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05-19-2008, 12:00 PM
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses grow by 'devious' methods, charge anti-missionaries
Who are Jehovah's Witnesses? for those who are after the truth here it is .  click on the link to read accurate knowledge about what Jehovahs witnesses are about
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05-19-2008, 01:47 PM
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses grow by 'devious' methods, charge anti-missionaries
Mee, In the interests of balance, interesting read:
France
Canada Elder Caught
Nancy Sage
Of course these are just the tip of the iceberg.
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05-19-2008, 01:51 PM
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses grow by 'devious' methods, charge anti-missionaries
Hmm maybe this is the thread I was looking for earlier....
I think there are a few good books from your publications and that is "is there a creator who really cares about me?" Good book how it looks into laymen science and universal fact at the beginging... (sp lolz kthx) But then as normal there are a few publications which I find slightly questionable....
Oh speaking of JW publications, "mankinds search for god." This is a book I am to start reading next let you know if this is one of their good ones or not once I'm done
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05-19-2008, 09:04 PM
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses grow by 'devious' methods, charge anti-missionaries
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Originally Posted by mee
Jehovahs witnesses like to build others up with some GOODNEWS  from the bible .
MATTHEW 24;14 JOHN 17;3 REVELATION 21;3-5 isaiah 33;24
PSALM 37;11 PSALM 37;29 MATTHEW 5;5 DANIEL 2;44
psalm 83;18
Next, the end, when he (Jesus)hands over the kingdom to his God and Father,(Jehovah) when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power. 25 For he must rule as king until [God] has put all enemies under his feet. 26 As the last enemy, death is to be brought to nothing. 27 For [God] "subjected all things under his feet." But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that it is with the exception of the one who subjected all things to him. 28 But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.1 CORINTHIANS 15;24-28
He will actually swallow up death forever, and the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will certainly wipe the tears from all faces. And the reproach of his people he will take away from all the earth, for Jehovah himself has spoken [it].
isaiah 25;8
and it is VERY GOOD 
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No, it isn't...
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05-20-2008, 02:02 PM
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses grow by 'devious' methods, charge anti-missionaries
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Oh speaking of JW publications, "mankinds search for god." This is a book I am to start reading next let you know if this is one of their good ones or not once I'm done 
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 mee thinks it is very good  i especially like the last bible verse on page 379  i am a work in progress to conceal myself
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05-20-2008, 02:04 PM
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses grow by 'devious' methods, charge anti-missionaries
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No, it isn't...
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mee likes the bible promises  they are very goodnews. and it is very good EVERLASTING LIFE
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