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Old 02-07-2005, 07:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Jesus Christ, he will return?

So ancient Hebrew Scriptures prophesied Jesus Christ's coming. The bible (New Testament) also originally Hebrew and Greek, Latin scripture, states that Jesus will return. Now we know that the 3 wise men predicted Jesus's coming, now I have heard the 3 wise men, originated from Iran, I have heard that they have originated from Ethiopia and even claims that they came from as far as Tibet.

Ok, it is said that history repeats itself. But I have heard something which I would agree with more, they say that history rhymes. The last time Jesus came, the romans were in the Middle East. Now what we have is the USA is in the Middle East. If I had to pick a place for the return of Jesus I would say, the Middle East once again, maybe even Iran, it seems to me only Iran is untouched by western domination in this world. Maybe it’s too soon for Jesus to revisit us? What do people think? Is there going to be an other religious movement? The bible also talks about the end to the world, we can all see what happening to the weather.. Maybe this seems to be a good time, for his return? It should be possible to predict him coming, after all the 3 wise men did. Any wise men here?
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Hmmm, seems like you should check out the Baha'i Faith. Baha'u'llah, the founder of the Baha'i Faith, was from Iran before he was exiled to Akka, in Israel.
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Old 02-07-2005, 07:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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He is not coming back for everyone. He is coming back for those who are waiting and expecting him and to gather those who love him.

The whole chapter of Matt 24 explains this.


(Mat 24:34-37 KJV) "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. {35} Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. {36} But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. {37} But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be."



21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.
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Old 02-08-2005, 12:19 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Yes He Will, Twice, Once In The Air, And Then On The Mount Of Olives
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Old 02-08-2005, 01:46 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I will be expetcing him, I only hope I'm not blind. As for

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Hmmm, seems like you should check out the Baha'i Faith. Baha'u'llah, the founder of the Baha'i Faith, was from Iran before he was exiled to Akka, in Israel.
I will view false prophet’s scripts in the bible and if I feel this is worthy I will look into it more.. Thanks for your help.
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Old 02-08-2005, 02:30 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I just looked up Baha'i Faith, I read some of the words of Baha'u'llah and must say they are very wise and grasping, I often talked about this life as a mere illusion and Baha'u'llah words have given me some security. I'll be keeping my ears pealed. I don't care about his teaching, I care about his life style and his hypocracy, if any


http://www.bahaullah.net/

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Praise be to God, the hearts of the friends are united and linked together, whether they be from the east or the west, from north or from south, whether they be German, French, Japanese, American, and whether they pertain to the white, the black, the red, the yellow or the brown race. Variations of colour, of land and of race are of no importance in the Baha'i Faith; on the contrary, Baha'i unity overcometh them all and doeth away with all these fancies and imaginations.
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O My servants! There shineth nothing else in Mine heart except the unfading light of the Morn of Divine guidance, and out of My mouth proceedeth naught but the essence of truth, which the Lord your God hath revealed. Follow not, therefore, your earthly desires, and violate not the Covenant of God, nor break your pledge to Him. With firm determination, with the whole affection of your heart, and with the full force of your words, turn ye unto Him, and walk not in the ways of the foolish. The world is but a show, vain and empty, a mere nothing, bearing the semblance of reality. Set not your affections upon it. Break not the bond that uniteth you with your Creator, and be not of those that have erred and strayed from His ways.
(Baha'u'llah: Gleanings, Page: 328)
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Yes, many of Baha'u'llah's words are pretty amazing.

There is a Baha'i section in this forum plus a few regular Baha'i posters who would be happy to answer your questions, I'm sure.

As for lifestyle, Baha'u'llah, although born into a somewhat wealthy family, spent pretty much all of his life in exile or in prison. His life, under these conditions, was extraordinary.

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Old 02-08-2005, 02:59 PM   #8 (permalink)
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BTW, I just noticed that your link above is for a splinter group and not the Baha'i Faith as it is practiced by over 5 million people worldwide. For a link to the Baha'i Faith, check:

www.bahai.org

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Very very interesting, I had no idea and as you can see in my first post in this topic, I had some pull towards Iran inside of me. If this is true, why does religion follow the trend of re-invention and why is one word not enough? Christianity came out of Juadism and Christianity tells us there will be a return of Christ, but Jesus came as a Jew. Now he comes as a born Muslim which opposed Christianity? Maybe these kind of questions are what blind people or come from blind people?
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Not liking the idea he had children. Holy men I feel should be devoted to God. Should stay pure in this sense. also he came from a wealthy family, maybe the idea that Iran had a prophet (Zoroastra) in the past made people believe that they could also be a chosen one, especially people that live in wealth and let there heads high.. I class myself as a Christian theologist with my whole life to decide which path to take. May that be anyway. Also Jesus will be returning towards the end of the world... Maybe further then we expect but it wasn't in the 1800s when Baha'u'llah was a live. We should see mircles.

The again, who knows. I'm still researching this relgion.
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The more I read about Baha'i the more I'm getting drawn into it.. I'm just shocked how I said Iran, in my topic starter, without any reason and witout even having a clue about Baha'i....
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Dear PM

Yes the Cosmic Christ will return.

First the Christ seed within man is growing so that we can all be Christ/GOD energy in practice and action. He is inspiring and working through those that are listening, he is imparting his vision of peace to all people's cultures and religions, to some he will speak as Allah, to others as Jesus, to others as Buddha he gives the name that resonates with the person hearing the message. Some just feel compelled by compassionate action and this is Christ the Lionheart, the Lion of Judah working from within the human form through the heart.

The Christ Vision of Peace will plant a new tree of life that is ecological, sustainable, compassionate and loving, honouring all sentient beings and life forms and especially human rights.

Then there will be peace on earth.

We are laying the red carpet for his arrival.

Then he will come once more, not just for Christians but for everyman, woman and child that survives the end times.

He said 'he will not come until there is peace on earth' so we have a lot of work to do to achieve his vision of peace and heaven on earth and there is no time to waste.

If he came now people would not accept him, like they did not accept him before, they would not believe him. They would hold tightly to there existing beliefs and bibles and not hear or embrace what he has to say.

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Re: Jesus Christ, he will return?

Dear PM

Yes the Cosmic Christ will return.

First the Christ seed within man is growing so that we can all be Christ/GOD energy in practice and action. He is inspiring and working through those that are listening, he is imparting his vision of peace to all people's cultures and religions, to some he will speak as Allah, to others as Jesus, to others as Buddha he gives the name that resonates with the person hearing the message. Some just feel compelled by compassionate action and this is Christ the Lionheart, the Lion of Judah working from within the human form through the heart.

The Christ Vision of Peace will plant a new tree of life that is ecological, sustainable, compassionate and loving, honouring all sentient beings and life forms and especially human rights.

Then there will be peace on earth.

We are laying the red carpet for his arrival.

Then he will come once more, not just for Christians but for everyman, woman and child that survives the end times.

He said 'he will not come until there is peace on earth' so we have a lot of work to do to achieve his vision of peace and heaven on earth and there is no time to waste in us creating the Kingdom of Love in preparation for his return.

If he came now people would not accept him, like they did not accept him before, they would not believe him. They would hold tightly to there existing beliefs, bibles and scriptures and would not embrace or hear what he comes to say.

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Sacred Star,
Yes, in this sense it is beautiful, for there would no longer be division.
Consciousness permeates all and none could claim -this God is mine alone- for all would be integrated expression. Christ consciousness beyond all known of a biblical historic Christ, transcended into a new era of enlightenment. New being encoded in the whole of humanity brings forth not only one but many. And salvation in a humanity taking responsibility for self and own action in the love and compassion of being.
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oh, no, they didn't. this is very far from being accepted, nor will it ever be. we can argue about it if you like, but such an idea is totally alien to judaism, as is the divinity of jesus.

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