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06-07-2008, 10:20 AM
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Re: Jesus: What happens now?
[quote=Bishadi;149531]Please.....
All anyone can do is suggest a scripture and we have the Mee me for that even when he does not realize most everyone in the west has the same material that can be found in any hotel room drawer.quote]
mee does realize that most people do have a bible, not only in hotel rooms but at their own home .
but the sad fact is those bibles are never got off the shelf or out of the attic to be read.
the bible is like a letter from God and it gives us the answers to many questions and it is very good  2 timothy 3;16-17
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06-07-2008, 06:33 PM
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Re: Jesus: What happens now?
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Please.....
All anyone can do is suggest a scripture and we have the Mee me for that even when he does not realize most everyone in the west has the same material that can be found in any hotel room drawer.quote]
mee does realize that most people do have a bible, not only in hotel rooms but at their own home .
but the sad fact is those bibles are never got off the shelf or out of the attic to be read.
the bible is like a letter from God and it gives us the answers to many questions and it is very good  2 timothy 3;16-17
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James 1:26
If any one doth think to be religious among you, not bridling his tongue, but deceiving his heart, of this one vain [is] the religion;
Did you forget to read that line?
Meaning to decieve what is true based on a belief is a sign of the Mee Me in mankind; ignorant!
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06-08-2008, 07:32 PM
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Re: Jesus: What happens now?
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James 1:26
If any one doth think to be religious among you, not bridling his tongue, but deceiving his heart, of this one vain [is] the religion;
Did you forget to read that line?
Meaning to decieve what is true based on a belief is a sign of the Mee Me in mankind; ignorant!
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If any man seems to himself to be a formal worshiper and yet does not bridle his tongue, but goes on deceiving his own heart, this man’s form of worship is futile. James 1;26
These words show that how you use your tongue is a serious matter.
it affects your very relationship with Jehovah God.
the better we train, or control, our tongue, the more useful it will be.
Considerate words can soothe and encourage others and as PROVERBS 12;18 says
There exists the one speaking thoughtlessly as with the stabs of a sword, but the tongue of the wise ones is a healing.PROVERBS 12;18
its good for all to take in the words of the bible .
The bible warns ,Keep a guard over your . . . tongue and keep yourself out of trouble," (Proverbs 21:23, The New English Bible)
the Bible reminds Christians that their speech cannot be separated from their worship.
We would be deceiving ourselves if we thought that God is pleased with our worship if we slander others, tell lies, or misuse the tongue in other ways. (Leviticus 19:16; Ephesians 4:25)
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06-08-2008, 11:42 PM
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Re: Jesus: What happens now?
The tongue can be a smoldering fire. It can be a sword. Backbiting is forbidden in my religion because of its destructiveness of unity. Courtesy is described as the prince of virtues. May our tongues be adorned with courtesy.
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06-09-2008, 01:59 PM
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Re: Jesus: What happens now?
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The tongue can be a smoldering fire. It can be a sword. Backbiting is forbidden in my religion because of its destructiveness of unity. Courtesy is described as the prince of virtues. May our tongues be adorned with courtesy.
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very true  it can be used for good or bad , its better when it is used for good things
Such is the strength of this little member, our tongue, that can spot up all the body. (James 3:5-9) Wise we are to guard the tongue.
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06-09-2008, 02:52 PM
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Re: Jesus: What happens now?
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very true  it can be used for good or bad , its better when it is used for good things
Such is the strength of this little member, our tongue, that can spot up all the body. (James 3:5-9) Wise we are to guard the tongue.
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read between the lines...
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06-09-2008, 09:19 PM
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Re: Jesus: What happens now?
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We would be deceiving ourselves if we thought that God is pleased with our worship if we slander others, tell lies, or misuse the tongue in other ways. (Leviticus 19:16; Ephesians 4:25)
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So did eve come from adam?
And then if Jesus died for our sins, then what happens now; he didn't stay dead.........
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06-09-2008, 10:00 PM
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What was the question?
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Re: Jesus: What happens now?
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So did eve come from adam?
And then if Jesus died for our sins, then what happens now; he didn't stay dead.........
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Well let's see:
She didn't come from his head, to be over him, nor from his feet to be below him. She came from his side, to be equal to him, from under his arm to be protected by him and from near his heart...to be loved by him.
What do you think?
As far as Jesus, the rest is up to us. In other words, we either accept his gift, or we reject it. He didn't stay dead, to show us he is the toughest and the most powerful of all, even over death. If Jesus (GOD) is for us, who can be against us?
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06-09-2008, 10:47 PM
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So did eve come from adam?
And then if Jesus died for our sins, then what happens now; he didn't stay dead.........
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have you read the bible? it will give you many answers 
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06-09-2008, 10:57 PM
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Re: Jesus: What happens now?
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Well let's see:
She didn't come from his head, to be over him, nor from his feet to be below him. She came from his side, to be equal to him, from under his arm to be protected by him and from near his heart...to be loved by him.
What do you think?
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That you are stuck in genesis to offer you understanding.
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As far as Jesus, the rest is up to us. In other words, we either accept his gift, or we reject it.
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Did Jesus author genesis?
Was the question a child asked to comprehend; seems you did not comprehend what happened in the story of 'dying to forgive sinse'
but you say this
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to show us he is the toughest and the most powerful of all
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Why.... did he have a reason to show off and be a pride fool? Well then I ask did he not go to the court that sentenced him, if you have all the answers ...'to show us he is the toughest'....
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If Jesus (GOD) is for us, who can be against us?
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Your own selfish pride, ignorance, retention of faith over remaining true to God..... the list is huge
and every item can be grounded in the 6 commandments as Jesus said......
and it is real easy to see 'choice' is what caused Adam leave the garden....
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06-09-2008, 11:05 PM
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Re: Jesus: What happens now?
just curious bishadi, where is your stance? from what i have read on your posts so far is that the book, the bible, itself is not necessary to gain true understanding of God Himself. please correct me if i am wrong. Thanks.
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06-09-2008, 11:17 PM
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Re: Jesus: What happens now?
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just curious bishadi, where is your stance? from what i have read on your posts so far is that the book, the bible, itself is not necessary to gain true understanding of God Himself. please correct me if i am wrong. Thanks.
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If God is within or all of existence at the same time, then why is one definition and not the definitions from all mankind important?
Meaning to honor God and life, then the duty is to honor knowledge in general to even come close to understanding God.
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06-09-2008, 11:32 PM
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Re: Jesus: What happens now?
i ask because lately the book itself, though filled with amazing knowledge, has just become untrustworthy. alot of the things i have learned on this sight have alot to do with this as you may know, because the bible over the years has become corrupt or tampered with, especially the gospel and paul's letters. so i turn to the next thing available, namely praying or an attempt to communicate directly with God. i understand what you mean though, i think. meaning, that the only way to understand God is by becoming one so then in turn become one with Him, just like Jesus prayed to do. i guess it isn't important about what stance you have as far as reading the bible or not, just that you understand that we must be one with God. Thanks for your reply. God bless.
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06-09-2008, 11:37 PM
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Re: Jesus: What happens now?
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If God is within or all of existence at the same time, then why is one definition and not the definitions from all mankind important?
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Or, conversely, why are any definitions important? If God is within us, then certainly definitions are unnecessary. We need only follow what we already are, and shed what we think we are but are not.
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Meaning to honor God and life, then the duty is to honor knowledge in general to even come close to understanding God.
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I think our duty is to love in order to honor God and life, and then we come closer to being at one with God. And then we are able to have knowledge unclouded by egoism.
Out of curiosity, if you do not find the Bible to be a worthy book of guidance, and you scorn Christianity, why post to the Christians? Why not put these questions up in B&S or Comparative if you are really interested in all definitions equally? That would be the logical place to put these sorts of posts to get a maximum response from the widest possible group, thereby aiding in your acknowledged quest to gain knowledge and understanding of all humankind's conceptualizations of God. Why limit yourself to only one perspective (Christians) by posting in this area?
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06-10-2008, 12:04 AM
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Re: Jesus: What happens now?
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Or, conversely, why are any definitions important? If God is within us, then certainly definitions are unnecessary. We need only follow what we already are, and shed what we think we are but are not.
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So you are now back to caring only about you!
These lines you represent do nothing for a child in understanding. Rebellion comes from exactly the kind of thinking you are representing.
Think of the baby; them little eyes asking these very questions: then tell yourself I WILL NOT LIE TO THEM beautiful little minds seeking.
Now to be square up honest to yourself, then you answer is rude!
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I think our duty is to love in order to honor God and life, and then we come closer to being at one with God.
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With learning more than what our fathers knew and teach the children so they can know more than you.
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Out of curiosity, if you do not find the Bible to be a worthy book of guidance, and you scorn Christianity, why post to the Christians?
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Maybe you had a vision we would meet.
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Why not put these questions up in B&S or Comparative if you are really interested in all definitions equally?
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No desire either way; just a 'do' kind of person.
See questions and areas of thought people want to know; a reply is posted.
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That would be the logical place to put these sorts of posts to get a maximum response from the widest possible group, thereby aiding in your acknowledged quest to gain knowledge and understanding of all humankind's conceptualizations of God. Why limit yourself to only one perspective (Christians) by posting in this area?
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Then assemble the material presented, and share with everyone. I really do not look for the attrition rate but into the hearts of people; as if a question can be answered to help, then maybe more will continue the life of the truth.
Meaning; nothing is for me. If and when the proper words live and people begin to understand, then with that term Love, the progression will continue.
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