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Old 11-16-2007, 09:30 PM   #91 (permalink)
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You would be more than welcome to visit Egypt, they are very friendly people and my husband would lok after you during your stay. Unless you stood in the high street shouting out your views about Islam or calling women lumps in bags no harm would come to you and I think you would be very surprised by our life.

Maybe we need to start an exchange programme? I strongly believe discussion and education is the key to peace, we should go to see what it is we are so afraid of.
This I know as fact. If one is invited to stay with a family from the Middle East (arab, persian or jew), they are honored and cared for and very protected (almost to the point of adnauseam).

Bob x would be able to handle it for about a week, before climbing the walls...lol
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one day mw and thank you. I think the boys would expect a beach with all that sand.
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Old 11-17-2007, 06:02 PM   #93 (permalink)
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one day mw and thank you. I think the boys would expect a beach with all that sand.
Are you mad woman, we have the Med on one side and the Red Sea on the other, it doesn't get much better than that.
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It does have one small side effect MW...It draws attention to the wearer's eyes...and that is where one begins to fall in love with another, the eyes are windows...
They can also be very deceptive at times ...... watch out for eyes!!

[quote=Quahom1;129192]This I know as fact. If one is invited to stay with a family from the Middle East (arab, persian or jew), they are honored and cared for and very protected (almost to the point of adnauseam).

Oh yes they do take hospitality very seriously and to an embarrassing level at times but hey I love being treated like a princess.
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Old 11-17-2007, 06:39 PM   #95 (permalink)
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Are you mad woman, we have the Med on one side and the Red Sea on the other, it doesn't get much better than that.
Can always tell a conversation between two women of the British Crown...
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Old 11-17-2007, 08:49 PM   #96 (permalink)
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Oh gosh I hadn't thought they would assume you were an evil Muslim. Imagine what it is like getting on a plane, you can feel everyone tense up and you want to shout out 'I DONT have a bomb honestly'.
Yep, there are a lot around there that think I'm a Muslim (but only on sundays? what kind of sense does that make) and that my priest is a Rabbi. Hilarious.

Getting on a plane is enough of a pain now anyway, one time they kept me at a security checkpoint for 25 minutes and even made me take off articles of clothing, and this was at Frankfurt International. But hey, if that's the price of security, fine. I would rather be inconvenienced before I get on the plane than blown up, right.

Getting on a plane in hijab, how terrible (or exciting, depending on the person) that experience must be. But then again, it must strengthen your faith remarkably, to know that you are being constantly judged for it.

But whenever I see a woman in a headscarf or hijab I think of the Virgin Mary, not a terrorist.

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Well I wasn't banned but the thread was closed and I had a couple of stern tellings off. Good heavens these people are talking about what a nice but misunderstood chap bin laden is. Everything written in the western media is lies and ALL Muslims are good - and these are mainly western converts.
Isn't it a responsibility of the Ummah to make sure people aren't spreading lies about Islam?
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:50 AM   #97 (permalink)
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Yep, there are a lot around there that think I'm a Muslim (but only on sundays? what kind of sense does that make) and that my priest is a Rabbi. Hilarious.
How brilliant, now that is what I call Interfaith

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Getting on a plane in hijab, how terrible (or exciting, depending on the person) that experience must be. But then again, it must strengthen your faith remarkably, to know that you are being constantly judged for it.
I don't mind the hassle because of the security aspects but I have to admit I do want to sit everyone down that is desperately trying not to look me in the eye and give a lecture about the real teachings of Islam. One thing I have noticed is that because I travel alone Egyptair tend to always sit me next to either another Muslim woman travelling alone or an elderly Muslim man (really it happens every time but it gives us something to talk about during the flight ).

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But whenever I see a woman in a headscarf or hijab I think of the Virgin Mary, not a terrorist.
You are in the vast minority unfortunately and no doubt your uderstanding comes from your own wearing of a head cover to church. It really has come to something when a person is judged by their headgear. I just read this story:

Silicon Valley Moms Blog: In Memory Of Alia Ansari

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Isn't it a responsibility of the Ummah to make sure people aren't spreading lies about Islam?
Yes it is but unfortunately there is a certain mindset that is set in concrete and it is impossible to discuss with. Everything you quote is 'western lies' and everything they quote is the absolute truth because a Muslim wrote it. It is so sad but we plod on. If you go to just about any forum you will see them and then other Muslims like myself trying to be the voice of reason and stop the lies from spreading - it is like trying to move a mountain sometimes.
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well, I for one like to hear your opinions mw. It is very enlightening. funny, cos all the stuff I thought I knew about muslims turns out to be cr/p. Thanks for clearing some of it up.
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Old 11-18-2007, 11:03 AM   #99 (permalink)
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well, I for one like to hear your opinions mw. It is very enlightening. funny, cos all the stuff I thought I knew about muslims turns out to be cr/p. Thanks for clearing some of it up.
Thank you Grey, yes there are so many things we believe because of what we read in the media. I first started to learn about Islam because I wanted to know what made the 'enemy' tick - wow I got some surprises. This is what the world needs, less sensationalist journalism and more discussion and real education.

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ok a question for you MW what is pbuh? and why do you put it after "holy" names??
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I don't mind the hassle because of the security aspects but I have to admit I do want to sit everyone down that is desperately trying not to look me in the eye and give a lecture about the real teachings of Islam. One thing I have noticed is that because I travel alone Egyptair tend to always sit me next to either another Muslim woman travelling alone or an elderly Muslim man (really it happens every time but it gives us something to talk about during the flight ).
I've kind of wondered, what is done for muslim prayers on a airplane? Do you just say them all before hand or make up for it later?

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That poor woman and her children. Sometimes I can't believe people are capable of things like this...
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Old 12-18-2007, 04:39 AM   #102 (permalink)
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Well I went to visit the WBC last Sunday and I was dissappointed that they did not really have a service. Or it seems that the day and time are a secret. The web page says 12 o'clock and my email request for the day and time went unanswered. The building lacks a parking lot, but there were a couple of vehicles there. I knocked but nobody answered. Perhaps they were too busy picketing their message in front of shopping malls or someone's funeral. It seems they were busy up in Nebraska trying to convince people that God was behind the shootings there. I'll have to catch them on the street someday.

The building has the "godhatesamerica.com" banner across it, and there is some grafitti across the reader board and along the outside fence. The flags are hoisted upside down, and the gate is locked. Other than that it is easy to overlook the building as someone's house. Several neighbors have flags up as if in defiance, and the neighbor across the street probably draws as much or more attention with Christmas decorations.

I was hoping to find out why this alleged church is breaking one of the ten commandments with a banner outside of it... and to rebuke them for that. It is easy to say, "God loves you" and to not realize that it is using his name in vain. Alternatively I would like to hear their explanation of that commandment. I was going to ask them if they would appreciate me telling everyone what the WBC loves or hates. Truthfully, can I say the WBC loves fags? Can I say the WBC loves America? Can I say the WBC hates God? In my view each of those statements is true, but it is not for me to say... it would be using their name in vain. I would equally say that this prideful father, judge, and jury hates the WBC... but they've not only spoken for themselves... they've carried out their own deed.

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what does wbc stand for???The initials I mean
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ok a question for you MW what is pbuh? and why do you put it after "holy" names??
Peace Be Unto Him, indicative of respect.
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Westboro Baptist Church, those folks who have been picketing funerals with their gay bashing messages.
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Here, you might like this little video song they did.
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