JW's, Sccientologists, Moonies.. when does a cult become a religion?

[17th Angel]

Originally Posted by mee

now thats more like it , the truth is always better than reading things that put over half truths . it just goes to show how taking words out of a few words can change the whole meaning . the same thing happens when Gods name is taken out of the bible translations . thats why Jehovahs witnesses have put Gods name right back where it rightly belongs in the first place , its always better to read accurate things rather than lies or half truths . would you not agree ?

Just a joke sunshine!!! Bless... But anyway in reference to your last post.... Accuracy is key with JW's? What's gods name again..... ?

[wil]

Originally Posted by 17th Angel

What's gods name again..... ?

I am.

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

Simple question to ask but does it have an answer?


When is a cult not a cult but a 'valid' religion.

Tao

When you get sucked into and join it.

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by 17th Angel

What's gods name again..... ?

17th Angel is my God

[mee]

Originally Posted by 17th Angel

Just a joke sunshine!!! Bless... But anyway in reference to your last post.... Accuracy is key with JW's? What's gods name again..... ?

That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah,

You alone are the Most High over all the earth. psalm 83;18


but then you knew i would come up with that verse

[mee]

Originally Posted by wil

I am.

or even ,......... I will prove to be what i will prove to be


He said to Moses: "I shall prove to be what I shall prove to be." (Exodus 3:14)
Jehovah chose his own name, one rich in meaning. "Jehovah" literally means "He Causes to Become."


J. B. Rotherham’s translation pointedly renders this verse: "I Will Become whatsoever I please." One authority on Biblical Hebrew explains the phrase this way: "Whatever the situation or need . . . , God will ‘become’ the solution to that need."


Many Bible translations here read: "I am that I am. but carful rendering is needed

[17th Angel]

Originally Posted by Bandit

17th Angel is my God

It's only my very good chum Bandit!! Blessings upon you brother!! I'm your god? lol... *saves that post* Thanks... Hope I don't let you down.

Originally Posted by mee

That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah,

You alone are the Most High over all the earth. psalm 83;18


but then you knew i would come up with that verse

I had a -feeling- you would use that post but, Jehovah isn't gods name is it? Accuracy is key though to JW's? so his name is?

[wil]

Psalm 46:10 Be still, and know that I am God

[17th Angel]

We have these replies.... I am, 17th Angel(lol), YHWH, yahweh, YHVH, Yeshua, Yahushua, Yahshua, Jehovah, God, Jesus, LORD, Elohim, Elohay, so on and so forth, They all deviate from the oringinal texts... :\ So.... What's gods name?

[mee]

Originally Posted by wil

Psalm 46:10 Be still, and know that I am God

Give in, YOU people, and know that I am God.
I will be exalted among the nations,
I will be exalted in the earth.” psalm 46;10


(Isaiah 42:8) “I am Jehovah. That is my name; and to no one else shall I give my own glory, neither my praise to graven images.

(Isaiah 12:4) And in that day YOU will certainly say: “Give thanks to Jehovah, YOU people! Call upon his name. Make known among the peoples his dealings. Make mention that his name is put on high.

(1 Chronicles 16:8) “Give thanks to Jehovah, YOU people; call upon his name, Make his deeds known among the peoples!



(Psalm 105:1) GIVE thanks to Jehovah, call upon his name, Make known among the peoples his dealings.


so what name would that be ?

this one

That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah,
You alone are the Most High over all the earth. psalm 83;18

And as Jesus said to his father Jehovah



(John 12:28) Father, glorify your name.” Therefore a voice came out of heaven: “I both glorified [it] and will glorify [it] again.”

[bob x]

But "Jehovah" ISN'T the name!

[Saltmeister]

Originally Posted by Bandit

When you get sucked into and join it.

It also depends what you're being sucked into . . .

ie. a vacuum cleaner . . . something you use for cleansing the world of dirt and scum.

You . . . literally . . . get trashed!!!

[mee]

Originally Posted by bob x

But "Jehovah" ISN'T the name!

JEHOVAH

(Je·ho′vah) [the causative form, the imperfect state, of the Heb. verb ha·wah′ (become); meaning “He Causes to Become”].

The personal name of God. (Isa 42:8; 54:5) Though Scripturally designated by such descriptive titles as “God,” “Sovereign Lord,” “Creator,” “Father,” “the Almighty,” and “the Most High,” his personality and attributes—who and what he is—are fully summed up and expressed only in this personal name.—Ps 83:18.

[bob x]

"Jehovah" is not a Hebrew word.

[17th Angel]

Originally Posted by bob x

But "Jehovah" ISN'T the name!

Finally.... *takes big breath* Exhausting this lol.... They say they aim for accuracy yet their name itself is incorrect....

Originally Posted by bob x

"Jehovah" is not a Hebrew word.

The very first letter stumps that idea.... lol the letter J in hebrew? Don't think so...

Also.... [the causative form, the imperfect state, of the Heb. verb ha·wah′ (become); meaning “He Causes to Become”].

That isn't right though is it?