Libervative Consiberal

[Prober]

Originally Posted by InLove

Libervative Consiberal

How can Love reject those who don't understand things in the same context as I do? And then I added: "Let me understand this, Lord, but only if it is within Your will."

It is sufficient, for now, for me to just say that my Jesus Christ said to me: Well, come on, child--you are in for the most wonderful adventure!! (I am crying tears of joy right now, y'all--I can hardly think of it or try and relate the experience without doing so. ) Anyway, I thought it might help if I said a little about it.

InPeace,
InLove

This is what I want to know as well...

Thank you very much.

[Prober]

Many thanks for your comments, Juan!

I feel exactly the same way.

My supposition is that G-d's commandments and the love of others as you've discussed are complementary.

Conservatives would emphasize the commandments. Liberals would emphasize Love.

I think the two go together perfectly.

Love without diluting the Gospel and vice-versa.

Mark

[China Cat Sunflower]

What is the value of assigning labels? Isn't it so we know who is "us" and who is "them"? I don't subscribe to whole systems. IOW, I don't think that any one set of observations can be extended to include all possibilities. This is what I think people want to do: find a box of answers that covers absolutely everything. From what I've observed, there's always a wobble, so you can never construct an all-inclusive solid state system. This is the essential flaw of conservatism. There are no pristine origins. The essential flaw within liberalism, it seems to me, is the assumption that consensus equals truth. But the problem with both avenues is that they assume that somewhere there exists a one-size-fits-all solution.

Chris

[China Cat Sunflower]

Hey Mark,

It's interesting, isn't it, that we have the same programming, and yet the "spirit" impresses us in diabolically different ways. How does that happen? I mean, I'm definately led in the direction I'm going, and empatheitically, and by extension, I'd say that you are too. So, is the "spirit" an objective thing, or is it a function of an individual's personal experience?

Chris

[Prober]

Originally Posted by China Cat Sunflower

What is the value of assigning labels? Isn't it so we know who is "us" and who is "them"? I don't subscribe to whole systems. IOW, I don't think that any one set of observations can be extended to include all possibilities.

I do. As G-d is omniscient, I think He can pan for every thought system.

This is what I think people want to do: find a box of answers that covers absolutely everything. From what I've observed, there's always a wobble, so you can never construct an all-inclusive solid state system. This is the essential flaw of conservatism. There are no pristine origins.

I disagree. There exists absolute truth. It's just that finite man cannot express it.

The essential flaw within liberalism, it seems to me, is the assumption that consensus equals truth.

I agree.

But the problem with both avenues is that they assume that somewhere there exists a one-size-fits-all solution.

Chris

Maybe in conservatism, but not liberalism IMO.

Love,
Mark

[Prober]

Originally Posted by China Cat Sunflower

Hey Mark,

It's interesting, isn't it, that we have the same programming, and yet the "spirit" impresses us in diabolically different ways. How does that happen? I mean, I'm definately led in the direction I'm going, and empatheitically, and by extension, I'd say that you are too. So, is the "spirit" an objective thing, or is it a function of an individual's personal experience?

Chris

Oh, yeah! I'd say the Spirit leads men according to their need and capacity. G-d makes everything beautiful in His time.

He (she) works with the material available to "draw all men" and everything works around to the glorification of G-d in the end.

I realize how corny this sounds coming from me, but it's really how I feel.

(Blind men of Hindustan, etc.)

[Prober]

P.S. Prince and the Pauper...

Parrallel lives...unaware of the other...and yet linked, somehow...

He works in mysterious ways, His wonders to perform!

[flowperson]

It has been shown that quantum complimentarity between wave forms and particles can theoretically work simultaneously over distances of billions of light years. If we actually "were" created in their image, that would explain a lot of the prior mythologies wouldn't it ?

flow....

[Prober]

Originally Posted by flowperson

It has been shown that quantum complimentarity between wave forms and particles can theoretically work simultaneously over distances of billions of light years. If we actually "were" created in their image, that would explain a lot of the prior mythologies wouldn't it ?

flow....

I haven't ignored this post. I keep reading it but nothing happens! It's like I stopped to think and forgot to start again.

Would you comment further?

[seattlegal]

Originally Posted by flowperson

It has been shown that quantum complimentarity between wave forms and particles can theoretically work simultaneously over distances of billions of light years. If we actually "were" created in their image, that would explain a lot of the prior mythologies wouldn't it ?

flow....

Originally Posted by Prober

I haven't ignored this post. I keep reading it but nothing happens! It's like I stopped to think and forgot to start again.

Would you comment further?

Translation: Broad vision, narrow path.

[Prober]

Originally Posted by seattlegal

Translation: Broad vision, narrow path.

Hey! I like that!

[Francis king]

... jesus, as a man, must also have encountered similar dilemmas... should he go along with orthodoxy, should he become more political, should he preach or keep his mouth shut... some things don't change...