Marijuana

[mee]

Marijuana

and Memory Loss

"In a world first," reports The Sydney Morning Herald of Australia, "Sydney researchers have demonstrated what many people have long suspected—that memory loss and lack of concentration caused by smoking marijuana persists long after people stop using the drug." The research, conducted at Macquarie University, confirmed that the damage marijuana causes is proportional to the amount smoked and the duration of the practice. The news gets worse: "These impairments may not be reversible." The study showed that former users suffered the same "cognitive impairments" as those who still smoked marijuana. More than memory is affected, especially for those who have used the drug for five years or more. Such individuals were found to be slower in processing information and less able to focus their attention and avoid distractions. The report concludes that, according to the combined evidence, smoking marijuana actually changes the brain’s physiology.

[mee]

Marijuana

and the Heart

"Middle-aged pot [marijuana] users face a fivefold increase in the risk of a heart attack in the hour after they smoke the drug," says Canada’s Globe and Mail in a report on a new study. "Smoking marijuana causes the heart rate to increase—often doubling it—while altering blood pressure . . . It may also trigger a heart attack by causing the formation of a clot, blocking the flow of blood to the heart muscle." Dr. Harold Kalant of the University of Toronto said: "For older people, the increased workload on the heart will be a risk factor for a heart attack." Cocaine is even more dangerous, says the report, because it increases the risk of a heart attack about 25-fold during the first hour after use.

[mee]

Drugs—The

Bible’s View

Of course, marijuana is just one of many popular drugs. But it well illustrates that there is ample reason to avoid taking any mind-altering substances for pleasure. Says the Bible: "The beauty of young men is their power." (Proverbs 20:29) As a young person, you no doubt enjoy good health. Why even risk throwing it away?
More important, though, we have the Bible’s view on this matter. It tells us to "safeguard . . . thinking ability," not to ruin it through chemical abuse. (Proverbs 3:21) It further exhorts: "Let us cleanse ourselves of every defilement of flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in God’s fear." Really, it is only to those who have ‘cleansed themselves of defilement,’ avoiding practices like drug abuse, that God promises: "‘I will take you in.’ ‘And I shall be a father to you.’"—2 Corinthians 6:17–7:1.
Nevertheless, turning down drugs may not be easy

[flowperson]

Mee, I'm assuming that you don't use alcohol either. I don't indulge myself either in alky or MJ these days. Mj helped to give me mild asthma in my 40's that I still live with, but it also gave me much enjoyment and pleasure in the past when it was badly needed.

My opinion is that it is still the best available self-medication out there to relieve stress and to alleviate certain symptoms of chronic and terminal diseases. That's why it's being legalized, it works. And archaeological evidence demonstrates that it was used as long ago as 100,000 years in tribal ceremonies. Everybody's brains have built-in receptors for the cannaboid chemicals !

I see the same studies that you do, but my experiences with MJ have been diffferent than what you have cited. Until you have trod the territory you should not judge, or don't you recognize that concept biblically ?

Your turn 17th.

flow....

[greymare]

been there, done that. not any more. I dont want the police banging on my door a 5 in the morning. I dont smoke cigarettes anymore either, but I am only concerned with the legalities of it.

[Tao_Equus]

It does seem to be something you tend to grow out of. For me the real question is should the state have the right to interfere in what an individual cares to use to seek pleasure. For me there is only one criteria that should define the answer. Does it harm anybody else. If not then the state should have no say in the matter.
Mee, have you tried it? If not you have no valid opinion. If not get some!! Be healthy, bake some fairy cakes, take them down to your next JW get together and get em all high!!..You never know they might even genuinely start giggling and being truly happy!!

Tao

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

It does seem to be something you tend to grow out of. For me the real question is should the state have the right to interfere in what an individual cares to use to seek pleasure. For me there is only one criteria that should define the answer. Does it harm anybody else. If not then the state should have no say in the matter.
Mee, have you tried it? If not you have no valid opinion. If not get some!! Be healthy, bake some fairy cakes, take them down to your next JW get together and get em all high!!..You never know they might even genuinely start giggling and being truly happy!!

Tao

If you were a company owner, and you were about to hire an employee, who uses pot, and you had trade secrets you did not want expressed publically, yet at a time, they were, and you knew you had employees that used marijuana (which is illegal), who do you think you would look to first, pertaining to a "mole"?

Cigarette smoker, non smoker, drinker, dope user?

Your bias is to go after the dope user. That is SOP. They already break the law, which means they are suspect in breaking your rules as a company head...

Logical.

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Q

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by greymare

been there, done that. not any more. I dont want the police banging on my door a 5 in the morning. I dont smoke cigarettes anymore either, but I am only concerned with the legalities of it.

I fight the stuff, and other stuff. I've seen the damage it does. I take great pleasure in killing that "weed". If not for medical reasons, I would love to see it go extinct.

It is a controlled substance, and there is a reason for such.

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Q

[mee]

[quote=flowperson;136729Until you have trod the territory you should not judge, or don't you recognize that concept biblically ?

Your turn 17th.

flow....[/quote] why do you think i am judging , ? i was just putting over what some people have said , and as a Jehovahs witness i can see the wisdom in bible princibles ............... maybe you have a pre- concieved idea .Remember i havent always been a Jehovahs witness and there was a time when i myself did not live according to bible .

[17th Angel]

It really doesn't matter what harm it does... Ask any smoker of weed if they really care what it is doing to them.. lol.

However I feel that I will soon not be smoking myself this week I have been down to four joints a day. NOTE: I am not giving up because of health reasons... I still smoke cigarettes lol.. Just I feel it is time I moved on from it...

When I wake up
Lunch time
When I get home
Bed time

That is very good for me...

But yeah Mee wtf? You still accept drink and all that crap and even Jesus(saws) drank! I can't be bothered to get into this argument as I have done thousands of times, but you're calling the pot black. End of the day no matter what you do it will kill ya...... And drink is FAR worse than weed (pure weed no tobacco and none of that brown rubbish.) And there are so many freaking good things about weed... That it is a big shame people are so freaking closed minded and wear they stupid blinkers all the time.... No bigger picture... It is a plant of peace And magic wonders... Hmm I'm talking myself into not quitting lol....

And Q...

They are breaking the law? Yeah in yanky land but if they are in Holland? Then what...
And that is bollocks..... You're saying you cannot trust a weed smoker? I don't trust christians then.. Cause they play with little boys..... Q you're a pervert. Ugh that has pissed me off so much....... Such a closed minded opinion which NO good will come from..


FLOW: I would agree... It is an awesome way to remove stress... I found out that I actually was having panic attacks... This plant has helped me over come this.... If anyone knows what panic attacks are like they will know... That feeling of having a heart attack... Not good.

[17th Angel]

CC11: Cannabis and the Christ: Jesus used Marijuana

Tao: You are so right... Without experience you truly have no concept or valid standing point... I see the plant seriously as divine... :\ I know I am like a "practicing Muslim" lol but this plant is from God, has to be... And the avenues it opens (spiritually) is amazing... Then you have the physical abilities of it.. Rope, clothing, pots, cups, all sorts of hardware, and then you have the medical abilities..... This plant is good. And one of the few reasons I believe there is a God.

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

If you were a company owner, and you were about to hire an employee, who uses pot, and you had trade secrets you did not want expressed publically, yet at a time, they were, and you knew you had employees that used marijuana (which is illegal), who do you think you would look to first, pertaining to a "mole"?

Cigarette smoker, non smoker, drinker, dope user?

Your bias is to go after the dope user. That is SOP. They already break the law, which means they are suspect in breaking your rules as a company head...

Logical.

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Q

logical!!! lmao.. where is your own personal biased and misguided opinion on someone who might smoke a joint logical? people from all walks and social classes partake of a puff. To brand them criminals is crass. If you were aware of you own Presidents links to the cocaine and heroin trade would you join the voices that want him impeached? To my mind there is one reason and one reason only that governments keep weed banned. it makes people lazy. Industry/government does not like lazy workers.

Tao

[juantoo3]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

To my mind there is one reason and one reason only that governments keep weed banned. it makes people lazy. Industry/government does not like lazy workers.

I always figured it was because there were more profits to be made by keeping it contraband.

[17th Angel]

Originally Posted by juantoo3

I always figured it was because there were more profits to be made by keeping it contraband.

Is there though? You are having to pay to make a police force... To attempt to stop it... Idiots.... You then have to pay courts to send down judgements you have to pay to fund prisons.... You have to..... Ugh I am just going to stop as it baffles the freaking mind.... Make it legal and tax it.... A film I once saw, Children of Men, they made it legal to kill yourself, and they joked that it was still illegal to smoke/grow weed... And that is having a dig at this **** head goverment of so called leaders.... Because they are blinded by the blinkers and this arrogant pride to say "yeah my bad we're a bunch of idiots and should legalise it...." Pull your heads out of each others asses "leaders" and stop this pointless fight, you cannot stop this plant

The COST it takes to try and "fight" weed and give prison sentences and all that court crap.... It would be cheaper to just let us be. They are driven by material gain and profit, end of the day they lose.... *humms I fought the law and the law won*... Heh.. I thought after the day had passed this thread wouldn't upset me... But still does....

[greymare]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

I fight the stuff, and other stuff. I've seen the damage it does. I take great pleasure in killing that "weed". If not for medical reasons, I would love to see it go extinct.

It is a controlled substance, and there is a reason for such.

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Q

just consider that maybe once just consider ok, maybe to lose a little control. just a little. in the safety of friends. just consider.