Marijuana

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by brucegdc

Yea, but why did s/he make it so darned UNcommon?

... Bruce

Hmmm, like any treasure, common sense can be kept or thrown away, depending upons the individual's value placed upon it. I guess it depends on what is valued more, common sense, or personal agenda...

v/r

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[Samuel Linton Boot]

Originally Posted by wil

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Eating the leaves in which 'man' creates cocaine is a widely used in the area in which it grows, both to enslave the labor and reduce hunger pains...

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When the coca leaves are chewed the saliva kills all the narcotic properties thus when ingested in this way coca is not harmful in fact it is beneficial, only when it is processed, turned into cocaine and snorted or smoked as crack does it become a problem.

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Samuel Linton Boot

When the coca leaves are chewed the saliva kills all the narcotic properties thus when ingested in this way coca is not harmful in fact it is beneficial, only when it is processed, turned into cocaine and snorted or smoked as crack does it become a problem.

When they roll it and smoke it (natives call it bazooka), they get the narcotic euhporia effects.

v/r

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[wil]

Originally Posted by Samuel Linton Boot
When the coca leaves are chewed the saliva kills all the narcotic properties thus when ingested in this way coca is not harmful in fact it is beneficial, only when it is processed, turned into cocaine and snorted or smoked as crack does it become a problem.

Your stats are different from what I find...
http://www.anytestkits.com/cocaine.htm

South American Indians in the Andes have been chewing cocoa leaves for thousands of years for the narcotic effect and the Spanish conquistadors, although officially very against the practice, introduced the leaf to Spain and the practice (of chewing cocoa leaves) gradually filtered through to the rest of Europe.

http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/neur...1/edamore.html

The South Americans chewed these cocoa leaves in order to stay awake for longer periods of time.

[Samuel Linton Boot]

Originally Posted by wil

Your stats are different from what I find...
http://www.anytestkits.com/cocaine.htmhttp://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/neur...1/edamore.html

Please see:
http://www.globalpolicy.org/socecon/...3/0325boli.htm
"....coca leaf, which has been chewed as an herbal stimulant for millennia by indigenous people in Bolivia. In addition to being used to treat altitude sickness and other ailments, Bolivians use coca to kill hunger and as a sacred offering in religious ceremonies. "

[brounosgr]

I love weed myself too. I live in London, where do you live? I'm looking for new pot buddies, especially those who are into the kind of conversation that I'd imagine you to be (based on what I read in your thread)

Contact me if you're interested in meeting up.....I'm a 32 year old guy looking for interesting new friends (with the weed element of course!)

[17th Angel]

Originally Posted by brounosgr

I love weed myself too. I live in London, where do you live? I'm looking for new pot buddies, especially those who are into the kind of conversation that I'd imagine you to be (based on what I read in your thread)

Contact me if you're interested in meeting up.....I'm a 32 year old guy looking for interesting new friends (with the weed element of course!)

lol.... I smell rozzers

[bananabrain]

i smell code of conduct violation. this is not a pick-up joint - or any kind of joint.

b'shalom

bananabrain

[17th Angel]

Open a can on him Bananabrain

[17th Angel]

Originally Posted by Pico

The bibles says your body is a temple, and not to defile it [meaning don't do drugs].

That is what it means does it? So when jesus himself drank wine? That was him destroying his temple? Or when he encouraged others to drink? What do you make of that? Some drugs are ok not others? Or... I am special so the rules don't apply to me, or those I deem "worthy". Or, a rebel son? My daddy says this but screw that I am going to drink this drug!! Here! Join me! Or.... A lack of knowledge? People in the days the bible was written didn't know alchol is a lethal drug? But, this is inspired by god? Suuuurley he'd know? OR "your body is a temple" means something else and because of how over the years we have become "drug aware" and anti "bad for your health" lol... We have bent it to mean DON'T DO DRUGS!!

[Francis king]

interesting thread... thought I'd add my two cents worth...

interesting that in nine whole pages nobody has mentioned that cannabis is a hallucinogenic agent, and even though it is not considered as potent a hallucinogen as LSD, it is still hallucinogenic... fact...

becuase it is an hallucinogen, it alters the perceptual reality of the user... while this is exciting and amusing in small doses for the regular user, for those with no experience of drugs this can be quite frightening, although the negative experience wears off pretty quickly, the bad experience can potentially trigger any underlying psychotic and anxiety disorders a person may have... fact...

cannabis is no good to you if u have a mental illness, unless ur illness is depression, the daft happiness which comes from smoking weed seems more effective that antidepressants in a lot of cases... but if u have any kind of psychotic disorder, watch out, as, for instance, if u hear voices, it makes the voices stronger and more forceful... if you get very paranoid, again, don't use cannabis as it will make things worse.. if u have bi-polar disorder, again, cannabis shouldn't be something u use, as its use can trigger manic episodes... fact...

beyond that, is cannabis dangerous? well, here the arguement divides the camps...

young ppl in the UK who use a lot of cannabis are reputedly using a lot of skunk, and this skunk is a.k.a superskunk, and reputedly around 60 times more potent than the grass which was smoked by the hippies in the 1960's... a lot of young ppl in the UK are becoming psychologically dependent on cannabis, and there are many reports of moody teenagers who start smoking weed, seem mellow while they're on it, and when they can't get their hands on it are far more violent and moody than they were before they started using...

personally, I think the reason for this is.... cannabis activates a lot more than pink eye and "the munchies"... yes, ppl have endogenous cannibanoid receptors in their brain, and these receptors are not activated until u start smoking weed... when u do start smoking weed, the high is similar to the release of endorphins, and things that would normally make u as mad as hell dont seem like such a big issue... however, when u take the feel good substance away, the anger, the agression, etc, that would normally be played out and dealt with in ur daily interactions is suddenly unfurled, and because ur brain chemistry has been altered by an artificial agent it takes a while for your brain to right itself again chemically, and so u find it difficult to process the normal angers u have, and so, without weed, the hippie is an aggressive moaning type for at least two days... this too, though, should subside, if the person uses less weed less often and takes regular days off...

as we know, perceptual hallucinations do not just involve the senses of sight and sound and touch- perceptual distortion also effects other processes, such as spatial awareness, so if ur stoned u shouldn't drive or operate heavy machinery... the IQ of potheads is generally statistically at least five points lower than non-pot heads, which is fine if ur a genius, but if ur barely average its a problem... potheads also suffer from memory loss (and if thats ur problem, then regularly dropping ginko biloba should fix that), and they also suffer more upper respiratory tract infections if they smoke it... (dropping vit C and trying other methods to imbibe might be useful here)...

...if you have a lot of data to input, or a lot of mathmatical formulas to calculate, then smoking weed while doing such means that u'll be more clumsy, u'll mentally go off on tangents, and the work will take a lot longer, yet if ur a creative type, then having a spliff while ur knocking out a rough outline for a new book is great... u will later have to go back and check sentence structure and grammar when ur straight, though...lol

so, all in all, I don't view cannabis as especially harmful in the great grand scheme of things, the problems with pot only arise when

there's a drought
ppl with some mental health problems smoke it
u are greedy

beyond that, I know of many social workers, teachers, policemen, office managers, and other similarly fine upstanding members of the community who smoke the stuff, hold down jobs and are good parents...

drugs are inert substances... they are not dangerous until u mix them with idiocy, insanity or immaturity...

[17th Angel]

Originally Posted by Francis king

interesting that in nine whole pages nobody has mentioned that cannabis is a hallucinogenic agent, and even though it is not considered as potent a hallucinogen as LSD, it is still hallucinogenic... fact...

Interesting...As you say, I guess no one mentioned it because it is hardly an effect... If you constantly use it... And in comparsion to acid, it's like licking a red lollypop... More people can "interact" with their perception on acid... But if you said say to me... Why do you smoke weed... "to relax." Why do you drop an acid? "to see and feel some crazy sh*t..." lol You get a main tag I feel with each drug... ;/

[InLove]

For those with epileptic tendencies, it can be really bad.

[17th Angel]

Originally Posted by InLove

For those with epileptic tendencies, it can be really bad.

I guess... Is that the weed's fault or their fault? *shrugs*

[InLove]

Well, I guess if you know you have an issue with epileptic type siezures, then you should stay away from it. I have known a couple of people who told me after the first time, they just never wanted it again. I think some people don't know ahead of time.