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09-04-2007, 05:45 PM
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Re: Modern Art
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Meanwhile Anish Kapoor, Andrew Long, Antony Gormley invariably have the 'oh wow!' effect on me ... but why? Couldn't say ...
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Exactly. When people ask "What does it mean?" it's a totally ridiculous question. What does a pork chop mean?
No art "movement" was more castigated that Impressionism in its time, now look at it, you can't escape the stuff - tea towels, calendars, probably boxer shorts...
Saw the recent documentary on Gormley...oh wow...
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09-04-2007, 05:51 PM
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Coexistence insha'Allah
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Re: Modern Art
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Bosch makes you are happy bunny?
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Of course, it may be unpleasant subject matter but his paintings speak to you, they have such vibrancy (is that a word or did I just make it up?). They speak of the torments of hell and how much I want to avoid them. 
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09-04-2007, 05:56 PM
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Re: Modern Art
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Of course, it may be unpleasant subject matter but his paintings speak to you, they have such vibrancy (is that a word or did I just make it up?). They speak of the torments of hell and how much I want to avoid them.  
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I seem to recall seeing his Hell triptych in a gallery in Venice. Certainly looked worse than Hull. Although...
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09-04-2007, 06:18 PM
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Rider on the storm...
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Re: Modern Art
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When it comes to BritArt, then there is an addition to the mix, gallery owner/agents like Charles Saatchi and especially Jay Jopling (who represents most of the BritArt pack) are in it for the money, so a few years back we saw new 'movements' emerging in British Art with frightening regularity, almost on a par with 'new campaigns' in ad agencies (C.Saatchi being one of the most successful admen ever).
Damien Hirst is a forerunner/product/victim/casualty of this engineered movement (in my view some of his art is good, but not as good as he thinks it is ... most of what he says isn't good at all). Tracey Emin is another, her work representing the UK at the Venice Biennale was overwhelmingly 'so what' ... I thinks we're getting tired of her sexual (mis)adventures being presented as art.
Critics, artists, owners and buyers all observed that this frentic activity has destablised the UK art market, inflating prices and egos way beyond the norm...
Meanwhile Anish Kapoor, Andrew Long, Antony Gormley invariably have the 'oh wow!' effect on me ... but why? Couldn't say ...
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I agree with you entirely Thomas. I dont think much of Hirsts work personally, but this piece I think is exceptional. That said it was created, from what I can gather, purely for wealth and not art and truthfully anyone with access to the £14 million for the diamonds and and an interest in lapidary could have made it.
My personal favourite contemporary UK artist is shunned and derided by the UK art world. Of course he is based here in Edinburgh and despite the scathing critics I believe his painting still command the highest price of any living UK artist. He is of course Jack Vettriano.
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09-04-2007, 06:20 PM
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Rider on the storm...
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Re: Modern Art
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they have such vibrancy (is that a word or did I just make it up?
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Yes dear its a grand word! And it does not even require batteries
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09-04-2007, 08:19 PM
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Re: Modern Art
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Certainly looked worse than Hull.
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You have clearly never been to Hull on a Friday night then.
Tao
I love that painting. Why on earth would anyone give that a bad write up? I do have a policy of seeing everything that critics slate, they are usually the best pieces.
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09-04-2007, 11:41 PM
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Re: Modern Art
Of course it's good...the artist's Italian !
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09-04-2007, 11:46 PM
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Re: Modern Art
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Of course it's good...the artist's Italian !
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Do I detect a little Italian blood in your heritage Flow??
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09-04-2007, 11:50 PM
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Oannes
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Re: Modern Art
50% Italian...50% Celt....GRRRR !
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09-04-2007, 11:52 PM
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Re: Modern Art
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50% Italian...50% Celt....GRRRR !
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Oops my knees went weak, the sauve Italian and the brutish Celt, what a mix!!
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09-04-2007, 11:54 PM
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Re: Modern Art
So would that be a shout of "you can take our ice cream but you'll never take our sunglasses"?
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09-05-2007, 08:33 PM
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Re: Modern Art
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I do have a policy of seeing everything that critics slate, they are usually the best pieces.
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You have policies?
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09-06-2007, 05:31 AM
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Re: Modern Art
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You have policies?
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No I ate them  (they are the chocolate ones with little sprinkles right?)
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