Muslim Vs. Muslim

[Divos]

Originally Posted by Divos

Islam was created by Jews[Meccans-Maccabees-Kabaa-Maccabees] as revenge against Rome, you could blame them in a way [not the 'Today' Jews, of course]

Originally Posted by Etu Malku

Come on man, that is total BS!
This is an 'INTERFAITH' forum, we're here to coincide with each others faiths and beliefs, not ostracize one another.

And Educate One and another, that Magic Does not Exist, or that Matter cannot be Created or Destroyed.

There could have been no royalty/kings/Rulers without Allah's to ordain them as such. And so, those who sought to control others and gain power[WAR MACHINES] over them created ‘gods’

Once you realize that one royal family via its various branches were the creators of
virtually all known gods and religions - then you know the deeper truths about this
which one discovers and that is that they (the royals) were in the "god"/religion
business, but that it was still even much more than that - you also learn that for royals
to even have existed they first had to create "gods" to ordain them. That is, to "authorize"
them as select representatives of those "gods".

[Amica]

Divos, you make me laugh. Now, some conspiracy theories out there may make sense to me because there might be some good evidence for them presented. But all that sci-fi BS is WEIRD.

I love reading sci-fi stuff, though Some of it is scary, some of it is weird. Yours, Divos, is bizzare and weird.

I thought "islam was created" by Catholic Church, Divos? Wow. Your "evidence" [Meccans-Maccabees-Kabaa-Maccabees] really "blows" my mind.

[Divos]

Originally Posted by Amica

Divos, you make me laugh. Now, some conspiracy theories out there may make sense to me because there might be some good evidence for them presented. But all that sci-fi BS is WEIRD.

I love reading sci-fi stuff, though Some of it is scary, some of it is weird. Yours, Divos, is bizzare and weird.

I thought "islam was created" by Catholic Church, Divos? Wow. Your "evidence" [Meccans-Maccabees-Kabaa-Maccabees] really "blows" my mind.

Now you brought "conspiracy theories" into question, Does the "Quran" and all its information count as a bunch of Old "conspiracy theories" and even "Sci-Fi" in the first place, Contradictory??

Remember, Matter is cannot be Created or Destroyed, which means, it Never Began

[Amica]

Divos: "There could have been no royalty/kings/Rulers without Allah's to ordain them as such. And so, those who sought to control others and gain power[WAR MACHINES] over them created ‘gods’
Once you realize that one royal family via its various branches were the creators of
virtually all known gods and religions - then you know the deeper truths about this
which one discovers and that is that they (the royals) were in the "god"/religion
business, but that it was still even much more than that - you also learn that for royals
to even have existed they first had to create "gods" to ordain them. That is, to "authorize"
them as select representatives of those "gods". " Are you still talking about Jews or...?

Yes, if Allah SWT wills, some are elected kings. Just like if He wills there will be flowers. Just like when He willed, He created the Universe. What is your point here?

Islam has no "gods" just The God (Allah SWT). And Qur'an teaches Muslims that no other creation can be worshiped but Allah SWT.

Divos, I suggest you educate yourself about belief in God first before you dive into sci-fi conspiracy theories. You want real conspiracies, real-life ones? Then investigate injustice done against all peoples in the human history: Jews, Muslims, Christians, etc. One real-life conspiracy was that of roman emperor Nero, when he approved of burning of Rome and then blamed it on Christians. And that was done to murder Christians. Now that was a real conspiracy. Or the Chrystal (spelling?) Night in Germany... etc. Those are real conspiracies. Your mumbo-jumbo is on the edge of lunacy (I am sorry to say).

[Divos]

Islam has no "gods" just The God (Allah SWT). And Qur'an teaches Muslims that no other creation can be worshiped but Allah SWT.

You know, the term "Creation" is derived from latin "create" (Which means to "Grow") and sometimes relates to the "Phallus", A Penis, If a Man, stick it, in your Vagina, it becomes a "Creator God", and a Baby is Formed in the Whom.

"Create" can be traced to "creare" or "ceres" which was a Fertility Goddess, whom also branched into Vestal, where you Muslim Female Outfit Derived



The term also stemmed into "Crescent", the Moon (represents Fertility), [Moon]Menstrual[Star] Cycle



And Allah, is a Semitic-Kemetic Phallic GOD [Because the "Penis" is a Creator]

And Qur'an teaches Muslims that no other creation can be worshiped but Allah[THE PHALLUS] SWT.

Creation = Resurrection = Erection [All the SAME thing]

Islam is really the biggest Insult to Woman, it makes man[amen] enslave Women

[Etu Malku]

Originally Posted by Divos

And Educate One and another, that Magic Does not Exist, or that Matter cannot be Created or Destroyed.

Well, certainly as we know it today, Matter certainly CAN be destroyed and created, but I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you are referring to Energy, which cannot be destroyed (as we know it today).

On the point of Magic(k) . . . it most certainly does exist, but obviously not in the simpleton way that you perceive it.

[Amica]

Divos, you use English vocabulary to prove your conspiracy. See, in my native language 'to create' means 'stvoriti' and has nothing to do with stuff you mentioned. In terms of the crescent and the moon, true those are ancient pagan symbols. Do they mean anything to politicians or religious figures? I have no clue. But I know that Muslims do not worship the symbol. The Qur'an mentions the moon and the Sun as the celestial bodies that help us measure time. And that is just about their purpose described for us Earthlings on this planet, as well as giving us light and other natural aspects of the creations that science has been talking about for quiet a while.

[Divos]

Originally Posted by Amica

Divos, you use English vocabulary to prove your conspiracy. See, in my native language 'to create' means 'stvoriti' and has nothing to do with stuff you mentioned. In terms of the crescent and the moon, true those are ancient pagan symbols. Do they mean anything to politicians or religious figures? I have no clue. But I know that Muslims do not worship the symbol. The Qur'an mentions the moon and the Sun as the celestial bodies that help us measure time. And that is just about their purpose described for us Earthlings on this planet, as well as giving us light and other natural aspects of the creations that science has been talking about for quiet a while.

I used Latin, and you have not proven my Point, In ALL Mythologies, the Creator God is a "Penis" a "Phallus"

This is Ra, also called "Ur_Ra" transliterated in Arabic as "Allah"

And the Hebrew/Islamic/Greek Creation Stories ALL begin with the Penis


100% Proven
(See the Erection in the Picture, Get the picture)

AMEN

[bananabrain]

Originally Posted by Divos

Radarmark is a Zionist, whom does most of the dictation

Originally Posted by Divos

oops, i get Nazi and Zion mixed up, they alike to me

<mod>this tells us all we need to know about you, really. final warning. next time i see something like this from you, you're banned.</mod>

bananabrain

[radarmark]

Divos, you are right up there with Robert Anton Wilson IMHO. But RAW did not really believe his BS. Matter does get destroyed, that is how the Sun, the Stars, nuclear reactors, and nuclear weapons work. If matter could not be destroyed (transformed into sunlight) it would be a pretty cold universe.

Pax et amore vincunt omnia!

[Divos]

Originally Posted by radarmark

Divos, you are right up there with Robert Anton Wilson IMHO. But RAW did not really believe his BS. Matter does get destroyed, that is how the Sun, the Stars, nuclear reactors, and nuclear weapons work. If matter could not be destroyed (transformed into sunlight) it would be a pretty cold universe.

Pax et amore vincunt omnia!

Its not destroyed thou is it, it still exists

[A Cup Of Tea]

I love having you around radar! It's comforting to have someone who actually KNOW how some of the things in the universe works.
I still don't understand what you get out of poking Divos, I don't like having mods censoring the forum but he's kind of out of control. And I'm losing hope for humanity with his every post.

[Abdullah]

Shia's have many sects and a lot of Muslims consider some of those sects [consisting of majority of shia's] to be out of the folds of Islam due to many of their beliefs being heretical, bot nonetheless they are not supposed to be fighting one another for this reason alone, and that is the case generally

there is a view in Islam that if a Muslim assists/joins forces with non-muslims that are fighting against Muslims...then such 'collaboraters' apostate, thus the Sunni's that are fighting the Shi'as in Iraq probably see themselves as defending against non-Muslims/apostates

[radarmark]

Originally Posted by A Cup Of Tea

I love having you around radar! It's comforting to have someone who actually KNOW how some of the things in the universe works.

Thanks, but you overestimate me, my friend. Just a skeptic, pedantic old man.

Originally Posted by A Cup Of Tea

I still don't understand what you get out of poking Divos, I don't like having mods censoring the forum but he's kind of out of control. And I'm losing hope for humanity with his every post.

I was willing to let things go until his (not too well hidden) anti-Semitism reared its ugly head). I believe in freedom of will, of belief, and speech. But it is my job to point out the (not too subtle) insanity of any "True Believer" (see a real small and real old book by that great old anarchist long-shoreman Eric Hoffer).

Pax et amore omnia vincunt!

[wil]

Originally Posted by Abdullah

Shia's have many sects and a lot of Muslims consider some of those sects [consisting of majority of shia's] to be out of the folds of Islam due to many of their beliefs being heretical, bot nonetheless they are not supposed to be fighting one another for this reason alone, and that is the case generally

there is a view in Islam that if a Muslim assists/joins forces with non-muslims that are fighting against Muslims...then such 'collaboraters' apostate, thus the Sunni's that are fighting the Shi'as in Iraq probably see themselves as defending against non-Muslims/apostates

Oh my, something akin to an actual reply to the OP?

I recall seeing a series of videos, I believe they were posted here, that described the schism....I recall it was an argument, maybe even brothers as to who retained the titular head after someone's death...and the two factions separated....

I also met someone who had to move from Iraq, as people with his name were being killed by one group or the other, just because of the name...it represented the original split.

I obviously have zero handle on this and any Muslim who responds should state whether they are sunni or shi'a so we can see the differences.