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07-22-2008, 07:18 PM
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Here you go then, Tariki. Taken from Between Heaven and Earth:
“Finally, Nagarjuna reiterates the words of the Buddha in the Kaccanagottasutta: life is neither eternal, nor finite; life neither has an end, nor is without end. Life is just at this moment of the present. Nagarjuna suggests that in reality, there are no views and no-one to hold views. The Buddhist state is a state where we let go of discussion; relinquishing all views. The Buddhist view, the dharma of the middle, is no view. And just at the moment when we relinquish all views, we experience the world as it is; we are able to see that reality is just this moment, just this place, just here and now.”
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07-29-2008, 12:10 PM
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Re: Nāgārjuna
Karma accumulated through ignorance and the other afflictions are the cause of the appearances of the aggregates. Ignorance is the soil that alows the seeds of craving to grow, thereby leading to repeated rebirth in Samsara.
~Nagarjuna, Good Hearted letter
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08-03-2008, 08:36 PM
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Re: Nāgārjuna
my fave:
Nagarjuna's Mahayanavimsika...
Homage to the Buddha (inconceivable glory)
mind unattached: whose compassion taught the law (expressed th unexpressible)
Buddha's and beings are of one essense-like space-
do not arise though an essence, do not cease in reality
And we are impelled to this world: to nirvana
by what does not occur by what is born in
dependence by what the omniscient know
for all things are pure and calm beyond
duality, like a reflection
reality
and we think there is a self when there is no self
happiness and sorrow and realisation are real for us
the six destinies and this world- the highest happiness of heaven, great suffering in hell- old age,
disease and death
we see what isn't there and burn in hell, burn by our own fault, as reeds are consumed by fire
and experience things at the magic show, go to
a destiny, born in dependence
at the magic show
fools fear the world, a painter paints a demon and screams, a child digs at the mud-hole, falls in
sunk in the mud of imposing upon reality
and can't get out, and see no:thing as real
feel sorrow: false poison tormenting with
the poison of fear
but the buddhas: constant in compassion
seek to help see us as helpless and lead us to
enlightenment
that we may be buddhas-knowledge
attained and freed from the net of things
-friends of the world
they see reality, unborn, unmade, they see
the world, empty, and without beginning,
without middle, without end
they see there is no world (no nirvana)
stainless it is unchanging and radiant in the
beginning and the middle in the end
he who has awakened does not see what he saw in his dream,
he who has awakened from the delusion does not see
the world;
a magician puts on a magic show when he
stops: nothing. The nature of reality
nothing but thought
a magic trick; and then we do good and evil,
and we go to good and evil destinies
we construct a world and we do not occur,
occurance is a construct, and things do not
exist
fools conceive of permanence; and self and happiness
in things essenceless
and are wrapped in darkness, wandering in
the ocean of existence.
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08-03-2008, 08:42 PM
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Re: Nāgārjuna
I have precious garland, Friendly letter, the mahayanavimsika (posted above), I also have... madhyamakasastra, which I will post later...
cheerio for now
FK
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08-06-2008, 08:40 PM
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Re: Nāgārjuna
You can also request a free copy of the Chandrakirti's Madhyamakavatara with Commentary by Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche at Khyentse Foundation - Publications Fund. Audio teachings on this are also available for a fee.
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12-13-2009, 10:12 AM
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Re: Nāgārjuna
Believers believe in buddhas
Who vanish in nirvana.
Don’t imagine empty buddhas
Vanishing or not.
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12-13-2009, 06:24 PM
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Re: Nāgārjuna
Good to see you back Snoopy. earl
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12-22-2009, 04:49 PM
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Re: Nāgārjuna
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12-29-2009, 06:20 PM
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Re: Nāgārjuna
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Originally Posted by Snoopy
I thought I’d create a receptacle for all things Acharya Nāgārjuna. I don’t have anything specific to post at present, I just thought I’d start a thread for quotes, references, resources, book recommendations, comments, discussion…whatever…for “the second Buddha.”
Feel free… .....
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Nāgārjuna's primary contribution to Buddhist philosophy is in the use of the concept of śūnyatā, or "emptiness,
Nagarjuna - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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This is a profound notion. We are always so focused on the material, here is the origin of the focus on the non-material.
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which brings together other key Buddhist doctrines, particularly anattā (no-self) and pratītyasamutpāda (dependent origination), to refute the metaphysics of Sarvastivāda and Sautrāntika (extinct non-Mahayana schools).
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The idea of "no-self" is very humbling, indeed.
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For Nāgārjuna, as for the Buddha in the early texts, it is not merely sentient beings that are "selfless" or non-substantial; all phenomena are without any svabhāva, literally "own-being" or "self-nature", and thus without any underlying essence;
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The idea of "self-nature" is very intriguing. It could mean that one needs to define their self through meditation and practice.
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they are empty of being independently existent; thus the heterodox theories of svabhāva circulating at the time were refuted on the basis of the doctrines of early Buddhism. This is so because all things arise dependently: not by their own power, but by depending on conditions leading to their coming into existence, as opposed to being.
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This idea could relate to the timelessness of the universe or its temporary nature.
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Nāgārjuna was also instrumental in the development of the two-truths doctrine, which claims that there are two levels of truth in Buddhist teaching, one which is directly (ultimately) true, and one which is only conventionally or instrumentally true, commonly called upāya in later Mahāyāna writings.
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Early ideas of relativism came from here.
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Nāgārjuna drew on an early version of this doctrine found in the Kaccāyanagotta Sutta, which distinguishes nītārtha (clear) and neyārtha (obscure) terms
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Bringing clarity is an important objective.
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