Name of God

[E99]

Hi Mansio

Your quote:

If the name of God is such an important matter to you why do you give a wrong name to God ?




It’s not the wrong name. It’s the proper anglicized transliteration of YHWH from the Germanic rendering of the name. The name of the true God as the tri-syllable Jehovah is rendered by the same correct means as any other tri or quad-syllabic name found in the scriptures, especially so, ones with the original first letters YH of the tetragramatton such as Jonathan or Jehonadab...... A common means when translating Hebrew to English, entering triple or quadruple vowels within the known consonants. A certain amount is known about Hebrew, and the tri-syllable names were never transliterated as bi-syllable (e.g Yahweh.)

Vowel points were put in, based on adonai, but this does not deflect from the tri-syllabic understanding of all names that had the actual first part of the name of God in them. YH e.g. Jehoiakim (literally YEHOYAQIM) and Jehovah (YHWH ) included. The name Jehovah is about the best English rendering that we are going to get, without having to change all of the other biblical names.





God confused the languages at Babel, and knew perfectly well that different variations on his name would obviously and naturally come about. Jehovah God created the variations of his own name, because he created the various languages. With this in mind, it illustrates that he will accept various transliterations of his name. He is a God of love and of order, if the scriptures use his name prolifically, He wanted it to be known, then by his love he would not be uncaring and obstinately deny us the different modern language (derived from ancient languages) usage of his name, if he created the variations in the first place.



The important thing is, that we use his name as requested by the one and only true God, no matter how it sounds to him, he recognises those that use the name from those that merely use a title such as God and especially so distinguishing it from man made false gods. The ‘lords’ prayer asks us to recognise and to make the name known ….. ‘ Hallowed be thy name’ amongst many other scriptures that imply that his name is to be used.





The scriptures are inundated with his name, the biblical characters use it all of the time. It is by the superstitious traditions of men that out of fear they stopped using his name. This came later in biblical history, Superstitions have always been rife throughout time, and it is no surprise that it will infiltrate even to the core of Gods inspired writings by attempting to obliterate the name of Jehovah God.

[mansio]

Mee, you say that Jesus "is the only Son produced by Jehovah alone".
The word "created" is avoided, but one can guess that "produced" means created.
So according to the JWs to whom you belong, God "the Father" has created a lesser God "the Son" aka Jesus. Dualism is a form of polytheism.

E99, you say that Jehovah is the anglicized transliteration of Yhwh.
As we talk about the name of God in the Bible, what in your opinion is the Hebrew transliteration of God's name ?

[taijasi]

I've tried to follow this post ... and - even considering that it is on the Christian forum - I think I've missed something. Why does it matter in the least how one personally chooses to label the Infinite, Unconditioned Being?

This seems especially pointless to me when we ought to all know better, recognizing that G-d knows us as we are from within our own hearts. Our every thought, word and deed defines our character ... and surely no one is so foolish as to believe that vain repetitions (of any name) matter more than authenticity - living by the spirit of the Law, rather than by its letter!

Have I missed something? Or is it really back to "How many angels ..." (can dance on a pinhead)?

If your response to all this is that somehow or another you think Jesus changed our relationship to G-d, then fine - but this makes not one bit of difference unless we have learned the lesson even more securely ... that G-d loves all his creatures, regardless of how (or whether) they choose to acknowledge him.

Dare we place a boundary on the unconditional Love and Compassion of the Divine? If so, then we haven't heard a word that Jesus is made to say - in the Gospels ... or that the Prophets are made to say in the Hebrew Old Testament.

Some may like to say, "Our Father Who art in Heaven" ... while others may prefer, "O Thou, beyond all human names & conceptions ..." But does either utterance change the reality of Deity - a being of inconceivable Will, boundless Love and Light supernal? I should hope not.

If this can be admitted, then everything else is but academic. We shall not likely discover the "true name(s) of G-d" until all of Humanity have indeed accepted our Oneness within the heart of Deity. We will need to recognize that every living Soul plays his or her part in the world drama. And as Alexander Pope expressed it, "All are but parts of one stupendous whole, Whose body Nature is, and God the Soul."

protokletos

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by taijasi

I've tried to follow this post ... and - even considering that it is on the Christian forum - I think I've missed something. Why does it matter in the least how one personally chooses to label the Infinite, Unconditioned Being?...

...Have I missed something? Or is it really back to "How many angels ..." (can dance on a pinhead)? ...


...If this can be admitted, then everything else is but academic. We shall not likely discover the "true name(s) of G-d" until all of Humanity have indeed accepted our Oneness within the heart of Deity. We will need to recognize that every living Soul plays his or her part in the world drama. And as Alexander Pope expressed it, "All are but parts of one stupendous whole, Whose body Nature is, and God the Soul."

protokletos

Actually you are correct. The arguement is academic, until someone deliberately attempts to place a stumbling block in front of another, out of contempt. Then it becomes abusive.

You are also correct in that this is the Christian forum and as such, expressing personal faith based opinions are not only welcome, but encouraged, as well as questions. However, attempting to sabatoge another's belief is not acceptable. I will take care of that issue.

v/r

Q