Oldest fragments of the Ancient Wisdom?

[radarmark]

Originally Posted by Aupmanyav

That again might not be true. Would you not consider the Greece as the cradle of "Western Wisdom"?

No, I consider the Middle East and India as part of the "west" (based on languages, alphabets, and ethnicity).

Greece was much later than the Indus Civilization or the Early Mesopotaneans.

[taijasi]

It's images like that, and awareness of there being spans of chronology into trillions of years (takes awhile to fill a bucket drop by shining sea) ...

... which make me glad there is an Avatar of Synthesis, as well as various others, bhaktajan. (Not to mention their more humanlike representatives, capable of expressing these Idea to us)

[Aupmanyav]

Originally Posted by bhaktajan

The Hindu Calendar

From your link: "The year – starting with Makara Sankranti, the sun's entrance into Capricorn – is divided into two halves and six seasons."

In the time of Vedas, an year was divided in five seasons: Vasant (Spring), Greeshma (Summer), Varsha (Rains), Hemant (Autumn), and Sharada (Winter). This was followed by a long, cold, dark Arctic night which extended for two months. There was no sixth season. When the Aryans moved South because of the ice-age, a sixth season Shishir (Colder than winter, snow) was added to the calender.

"Pañcapādam pitaram dvādashākritim diva āhuh pare ardhe purīshinam;"

(They call him in the farther half of heaven the Sire five-footed, of twelve forms, * wealthy in watery store.)
Rig Veda: Rig-Veda Book 1: HYMN CLXIV. Viśvedevas., Verse 12

* Wealthy in watery Store: The Aryans meant 'life' when they said 'water' (apah, that was one of their Gods), because water gave life to vegetation and grass for their live-stock. During the Arctic night, all things were frozen. Aryans longed for the sun and water (through their sacred celestial river, Sarasvati) to appear again so that their live-stock could graze and they could lead normal life.

[Aupmanyav]

Originally Posted by radarmark

No, I consider the Middle East and India as part of the "west" (based on languages, alphabets, and ethnicity). Greece was much later than the Indus Civilization or the Early Mesopotaneans.

I do not know if Indus Valley civilization can be termed as Indo-European, perhaps it was indigenous Indian, but Mesopotamia certainly was not Indo-European.

The approximate present-day distribution of the Indo-European branches within their homelands of Europe and Asia (Wikipedia):