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Old 09-28-2004, 08:13 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Ouroboros, a snake biting its tail

This particular subject I have never heard of before "Ouroboros, a snake biting its tail" so I have read the post with interest. I am still not clear just as to what is meant by "Ouroboros, a snake biting its tail" or the reference it has to "christian theology" but I was interested in the discution on Satan and the Snake.

Some one asked earlier if there was any place in the Bible were the Devil and the Serpent are directly linked to gether Well I found 2 places both in Revelation. Revelation 12:9 and 20:2

Now just to throw some extra thoughts in here I see the Bible as saying that Satan was not made by God at all but was a powerfull angel that betrayed his posuition when he decived Eve. The word evidently means " a slanderer" . Satan did this by slandering Gods good name by tell Eve she did not need him.
I percive that Saten spoke through a serpent and was not the actual serpent. He made it apear as if the serpent was speaking.

In Reveletion in different vissions that John was given Satan is depicted or represented as the original serpant and, as a mighty dragon but Satan always remains a spirit creature. Elsewher Satan is likened to a roaring Lion seaking to devour someone. So, these animal uses are pictorial of different aspects of the personality of Satan.
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Old 09-28-2004, 01:02 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Now just to throw some extra thoughts in here I see the Bible as saying that Satan was not made by God at all but was a powerfull angel that betrayed his posuition when he decived Eve. The word evidently means " a slanderer" . Satan did this by slandering Gods good name by tell Eve she did not need him.
I percive that Saten spoke through a serpent and was not the actual serpent. He made it apear as if the serpent was speaking.
I'd just like to say that the fall of Satan isn't described in the bible (except in Revelation but that is cryptic). Satan fell the Moment he was created. Because he was and angel and all of the angels where created at once by God. That is when they had the choice between Obeying God or not. Satan felt that Not only that he should be worshiped but that God should take the form of an Angel not a human. Satan had fallen before he tricked Eve in the garden.

I appreciate the rest of your insights though, they make sense to me. Can you show me where Satan is referred to as a lion? Just curious what you are referencing.
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Kindest Regards, JJM!

Thanks for the post, it looks like you've been coming along nicely with your homework!

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However, the words are It and she not the seed and the woman.
This is really the point I was addressing, although I thank you for the info concerning bruise/crush/wound/strike, I was not aware of these translations.

In the Interlinear, Pe****ta, and 1611 KJV, there is the distinction, It, implying the child/offspring/seed, not the woman herself, and at least in Protestant teaching this is considered the earliest promise of the coming of Messiah.

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Old 09-30-2004, 07:16 AM   #19 (permalink)
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G'day from Australia,

You arsked

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I appreciate the rest of your insights though, they make sense to me. Can you show me where Satan is referred to as a lion? Just curious what you are referencing.
The passage is at 1 Pet 5:8 Here it is from the RSV
8 ¶ Be sober, be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking some one to devour.

The Devil is linked to Satan at Rev 12:9 and 20 :2

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