Prophecy

[path_of_one]

Brave New World by Huxley did a pretty good job of projecting where the US was headed culturally. Despite being science fiction, it is excellent social commentary.

Sometimes it is hard to see where prophecy ends (in the meaning of foreseeing the future) and just plain good logical guessing begins. But I don't see precognition or retrocognition, or any of the mental abilities (remote viewing, telepathy, etc) as prophecy.

I understand prophecy to be that which Lunamoth defines- a recognition of truth and the capacity to pass on the message to others. Prophecy, in my mind, is thus something that is always relevant in every moment.

[juantoo3]

Kindest Regards, Taijasi!

Could you give some examples, Juantoo? I have both books right behind me here, and was even a philosophy major undergrad ... but I never read either book! I'd be curious to hear about and discuss some of their specific predictions, methods, etc.

I cannot speak to methodology, although I understand both were sociologists. They were simply astute in looking at human society in combination with politics and where we as societies (in the "developed" world) were headed. Orwell in particular, having written 1984 during WWII, was keen to the technological methods political machines were able to use to advantage to brainwash the populace. I.E.: television. Toffler seemed to me more keen on social developments, predicting such as same-sex marriage becoming an acceptable part of social institutions before even the failed "equal rights" amendment attempt to the US constitution in the '70's.

[juantoo3]

Kindest Regards, path_of_one!

Brave New World by Huxley did a pretty good job of projecting where the US was headed culturally. Despite being science fiction, it is excellent social commentary.

Huxley is an interesting character in his own right, being a product of the "beat" generation and advocate of psychedelic drug use for the hippy movement. I didn't see "Brave New World" so much as prediction as warning. Although it forshadowed genetic enhancement, he also predicted the family structure being surrendered totally to the state. In other words, no more nuclear families. I will say he had an interesting insight considering the "slight of hand" of occupying the minds of the masses with frivolous and unproductive pursuits designed primarily to stimulate the economy and to keep their eyes and minds off of what was really transpiring in the world. This aspect has analogies in professional sports.

I understand prophecy to be that which Lunamoth defines- a recognition of truth and the capacity to pass on the message to others. Prophecy, in my mind, is thus something that is always relevant in every moment.

From a spiritual / religious aspect I agree. Nevertheless, being able to foresee, by spirit or logical deduction, is quite a gift.

[juantoo3]

I need to correct myself as I'm certain someone else will do it for me...

Orwell in particular, having written 1984 during WWII, was keen to the technological methods political machines were able to use to advantage to brainwash the populace. I.E.: television.

Orwell did not live to see commercial television available to the public. But he did forsee its value as I mentioned. His focus was on mass media in general.

[one of the few]

I took a quick look in my Concordance, I am pretty sure that I read some where that all that spoke of the good news was in fact prophesying. I believe it's in the Epistles. We all come into his light with one gift to start. Growing in the spirit it's given onto us more spiritual gifts which are to heal, educate, serve and minister onto others.
In the old testament there was others which spiritually acted on behalf of God. It was when Saul disobeyed God that it was outlawed to spiritually act outside of Gods Anointed. Back then it was not the gift that was evil but the way you applied that gift. The same stands true today in the open acceptance of all faiths. I believe that Prophecy is true in many forms of life and beliefs,the safe way of approach is to take it before your LORD. Let Jesus direct you in what to believe. Take control of your Will in God's plan with asking directions hence (color of shirt for one to believe in meeting) safe to say God welcomes our requests, it's one sure way to keep us in his word and having it affect our lives.
Please respond if scripture is known, about all who preach ..... are Prophets

[mee]

some bible Prophecies served to warn, advising when urgent action was needed. A forceful example of this is Jesus’ warning of Jerusalem’s coming destruction and the situation that would signal the time for his followers to flee from her to a place of safety. (Lu 19:41-44; 21:7-21) Similar prophetic warnings apply to Christ’s presence.—Compare Mt 24:36-42.

[taijasi]

One new wave of prophets, whose individual voices as well as whose collective Voice can be heard if we listen ... is a group including many of today's most gifted physicists (quantum physicists, astrophysicists, cosmologists, etc.), as well as quite a good number of science fiction writers. Happily, Douglas Adams would seem to have good standing within this group, while also being a really funny guy and a downright hoopy frood to boot.

Quite seriously though (again), Gene Roddenberry (of Star Trek fame) also exemplifies this group, and this type of prophecy. Some of the prognostications do concern technology itself, yet the greatest of insights in this form of prophecy center on the ethical use of technology, and draw us closer to Right Contemplation of its most benevolent (therefore Highest) purposes.

I would invoke the lessons from such literary & movie classics as The Day the Earth Stood Still, Forbidden Planet, Lord of the Rings, and the original Star Wars Trilogy, in support of this last point ... (since all of these stories treat of a common theme, while providing inspiration and suggesting pathways of positive change in a variety of images and motifs).

andrew

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lunamoth Prophecy is not so much about telling the future as it is about recognizing the truth.
Probably one of the best things I read from you! That's just excellent! If there is a truthful path that we are following, a path towards God, and infinite path, it is planed by God and it is Gods will, there for to God it is as Good as already accomplished. It's when we fail to see Gods intensions when we are left behind and turn from him. Prophecy confirms Gods plan and guides are way and recognition of truth. Prophecy out of God works is Pseudo art to me.
vbmenu_register("postmenu_56872", true); pohaikawahine vbmenu_register("postmenu_56950", true); #to my way of thinking, prophecy and revelation or visions are all related and itthat opened his own 'hall of records' ....
much of what he wrote (other than his direct references to healing) is, in my view, deeply embedded in symbolism and can be interpreted at many levels (like all symbolism) .... for example he said it would take three to open the 'hall of records' and I don't think this means three peoplethis is part of the process in which revelations or visions take place .... the 'hall of records' or the place of all knowing opens and one is able to cross-over into the world of spirit]unquote

We have to investigate as to what is prophecy, revelation, visions and lucid dreams? Every revealed religion has a concept and resources about all these things and I respect sacred Scriptures of every Revealed Religion, though I may accept or not accept the contents of the same on merit. I am an Ahmadi, a faith in Islam by which I mean complete submission to One Absolute Truth (God) through continuous search in peace and respecting the humanity, in which we are already one.
I would start from Quran , others may quote their scriptures they believe in, as this Book has a special attribute of giving WORD OF GOD ,the most secure and protected, as also the Reason OF GOD ,in concentrated form; some opening verses of Chapter 12: Yusuf(Joseph).
[12:1] “In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[12:2] Alif Lam Ra. These are verses of the clear Book.
[12:3] We have revealed it - the Qur'an in Arabic - that you may understand.
[12:4] We narrate unto thee the best of narrative in that We have revealed to thee this Qur'an though thou wast, before this among those unaware of the truth.
[12:5] Remember the time when Joseph said to his father, O my father, I saw in a dream eleven stars and the sun and the moon - I saw them making obeisance to me.'
[12:6] He said, 'O my dear son, relate not thy dream to thy brothers, lest they contrive a plot against thee, for Satan is to man an open enemy.
[12:7] 'And thus, as thou hast seen, thy Lord shall choose thee and teach thee the interpretations of things divine and perfect His favour upon thee and upon the family of Jacob as He perfected it upon thy two forefathers - Abraham and Isaac. Verily, thy Lord is All-Knowing, Wise.'
[12:8] Surely, in Joseph and his brethren there are Signs for the inquirers;”

Thanks

[mee]

bible prophecy always comes true

Prophecy

Definition:

An inspired message; a revelation of the divine will and purpose. Prophecy may be a prediction of something to come, inspired moral teaching, or an expression of a divine command or judgment.

many prophecies have already come true in the bible

what are some of the outstanding Bible prophecies that are yet to be fulfilled?

1 Thess. 5:3: “Whenever it is that they are saying: ‘Peace and security!’ then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them just as the pang of distress upon a pregnant woman; and they will by no means escape.”

Rev. 17:16: “The ten horns that you saw, and the wild beast, these will hate the harlot [Babylon the Great] and will make her devastated and naked, and will eat up her fleshy parts and will completely burn her with fire.”

Ezek. 38:14-19: “You must say to Gog, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said: “Will it not be in that day when my people [spiritual] Israel are dwelling in security that you will know it? And you will certainly come from your place, from the remotest parts of the north, you and many peoples with you . . . ” “And it must occur in that day, in the day when Gog comes in upon the soil of Israel,” is the utterance of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah, “that my rage will come up into my nose. And in my ardor, in the fire of my fury, I shall have to speak.”’”

Dan. 2:44: “The kingdom [set up by God] . . . will crush and put an end to all these [human] kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite.”

Ezek. 38:23: “I shall certainly magnify myself and sanctify myself and make myself known before the eyes of many nations; and they will have
to know that I am Jehovah.”

Rev. 20:1-3: “I saw an angel coming down out of heaven with the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. And he seized the dragon, the original serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. And he hurled him into the abyss and shut it and sealed it over him, that he might not mislead the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After these things he must be let loose for a little while.”

John 5:28, 29: “Do not marvel at this, because the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, those who practiced
vile things to a resurrection of judgment.”

Rev. 21:3, 4: “I heard a loud voice from the throne say: ‘Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his peoples. And God himself will be with them. And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.’”

1 Cor. 15:24-28: “Next, the end, when he hands over the kingdom to his God and Father . . . But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.”

[Hermano Luis]

I doubt every prohecy. I see no spiritual or moral value in it. The future is just an imagination without substance and reality... it is nonexistent.

Hermano Luis

[mee]

Originally Posted by Hermano Luis

I doubt every prohecy. I see no spiritual or moral value in it. The future is just an imagination without substance and reality... it is nonexistent.

Hermano Luis

when it comes to the bible

The fact that many prophecies were fulfilled in their own times convinced sincere ones of God’s power to carry out his purpose despite all opposition.

It was proof of his unique Godship that he, and he alone, could foretell such events and bring them to pass. (Isa 41:21-26; 46:9-11)


Remember the first things of a long time ago, that I am the Divine One and there is no other God, nor anyone like me; the One telling from the beginning the finale, and from long ago the things that have not been done; the One saying, ‘My own counsel will stand, and everything that is my delight I shall do’; the One calling from the sunrising a bird of prey, from a distant land the man to execute my counsel. I have even spoken [it]; I shall also bring it in. I have formed [it], I shall also do it.
isaiah 46;9-11