rabbinic interpretation and jewish law is neither "worship" nor "shirk"

[Abdullah]

Salaam bro

I'm the worst person to ask about that tarika bro, for I dont know nothing about them whatsoever

Just posted up the article of Shaykh Nuh from that site.

Sorry couldn't be of much help

Salaam

[Muslimwoman]

Originally Posted by Zaakir

kaffir - non believers

You may like to read these definitions by Dr Badawi, Zaakir:

IslamOnline.net - Shari'ah & Humanity

Salaam

[Abdullah]

InshAllah I have said enough on this thread to clarify the Islamic views regarding the queries raised, thus I think it is time for me to now politely 'bow' [to Allah, for we dont bow to humans ] out; but before I go I'd say this to my fellow non-Muslims:

To be a Pluralist [i.e, to firmly beleive that mankind can live together in peace and harmony despite us having different faiths and beliefs, even though we may beleive in thnigs like "if you dont beleive Jesus is Lord, your gonig to hell", "If you reject Islam and thereafter die as a non-Muslim, your going to hell"] is an absolute must if we are to live in peace and harmony together in this multi faith, interdependent world and the intollerant attitude of "my way [of perrenialism] or the highway" should be shunned.

Those of the non-Muslims who feel resentment towards our beleifs of religious exclusivity, despite the fact that our exclusive beleifs does not effect the way we interact/socialise with non-Muslims, should take a lesson from us in how to go about maintaining a tollerant and unresentfull attitude towards Islam and Muslims:

Muslims do not feel any resentment or hate towards the billions of people? of other faiths that beleive in religious exclusivity too; e.g, we dont harbour any ill feelings or malice towards the Christians who believe that were going to hell as we dont take Jesus [pbuh] as our God.

Another essential attitude and demeanour that should be adopted, in order to remain tollerant and freindly towards people of other faiths, is that, when debating or dicussing religion with people of other faith, our 'emotions' should be put aside and we should enter debate and discourse with an intellectual frame of mind, for such topics are obviously contradictory [that is why many would tell you that a golden rule of the workplace is to 'never discuss religion or politics'] and there is no room to allow our instinctive emotions to dictate our participation in such discourses.

I have seen many Muslims and people of other faiths discuss religion, and the gist of those debates is usually, "I'm right and your wrong, and your path leads to hell and mines lead to heaven".; but these suggestions are made in an intellectual, contextual and relevant context, taking sensetivities into consideration, and at the end of the debates, there is a smile and a handshake, for both parties understand that nothing holds us back from being freindly and peacefull towards one another, despite our differences in religion.

And to anyone who may be wondering as to why I've been so vocal in this thread in asserting the views of the mainstream and consensus; it was only to aquaint people with the truth, regarding their queries, for answers that are anything but the truth, regarding this issue, will be to 'lull them into a false sense of security'...and I certainly dont want to be held guilty on the day of Judgement for that.

Peace and guidance to all

[bananabrain]

Originally Posted by Abdullah

the intolerant attitude "my way [of perrenialism] or the highway" should be shunned.

ok, i agree - except that that's exactly what your own attitude is, except that your "way" isn't perennialism (useful word that).

Muslims do not feel any resentment or hate towards the billions of people? of other faiths that believe in religious exclusivity too; e.g, we don't harbour any ill feelings or malice towards the Christians who believe that were going to hell as we dont take Jesus [pbuh] as our God.

and the jews? our belief is that "the righteous amongst the [non-jewish] nations have a portion in the World to Come", so as far as we're concerned you actually have it much easier than us in terms of your obligations, given that you only have 7 rather than 613. this is one of the reasons we are not obliged to attempt to convert people, because although we have our own special mission, we believe everyone else also has a purpose in the Divine Plan so, unlike christian evangelists, we should not be triumphalist or supercessionist or any of these other things, so you can hardly use old chestnut #4 argument, "well, you say the same things as us anyway".

but anyway, thanks for your candour on this thread - it has been quite thought-provoking.

b'shalom

bananabrain

[Muslimwoman]

Why am I thinking about the film the invasion of the body snatchers?