Revelation: the book

[earl]

I'd agree with you Thomas, that drugs are not the key to any serious spiritual advancement-more like a jump-start (for some people). Some of those same contributors to "Higher Wisdom" did speak of how they had had such an intense spiritual experience it had a lasting effect on their personality-sort of akin to that some have experienced with near-death experiences. In fact, the thing I find fascinating re some of these spiritually-oriented drug trips is how similar they sound to some NDE's. Almost seems like you need to "get out of your right mind/body" to obtain a profounder view. But as to drugs, like they say what goes up, usually must come down-so no permanent transformation that way. I like what one of my favorite American Buddhist writers, Surya Das, said re seeking any type of "spiritual high," drug or otherwise: that the point of enlightenment was not to get high (seek a particular experience), but to get free. In Christian parlance, we could say the same thing as re surrendering to Christ. Surrender at its root does not look for any particular human-made end or it wouldn't be surrender. When I threw out that comment initially re the author of the Book of Revelation being on psychedelics, I didn't actually expect to find someone had seriously suggested that theory before, so that's why I was both surprised & amused. Guess seriously deranged minds think alike. have a good one, earl

[flowperson]

Originally Posted by Zagreus

No chance any of it was a bit moldy, perhaps?

Or did you hafta pay extra for that kind ...

~zag

Zag...the white mold was the worst tasting but it did more to you. The green stuff kept you mellow and smiling, and tasted a little like broccoli. That's why Geo. the 1st. didn't like it. He LIKED to be nervous I think.

They both came free with the sandwich.

flow....