‘righteousness itself is divisive’.

[_Z_]

‘righteousness itself is divisive’.

discuss notion.
some ideas on it...

there are many kinds of truth and many people think they have the only singular version that is true. it only takes the slightest difference in ideas and opinions/interpretations then we get another religion, denomination thereof or a cult. it would appear that the arrow of truth splits its target in two!
we know that in science you cannot have an absolutely accurate observation, is truth the same? because an idea can always have more than one meaning, there can never be absolute meaning and hence those who think they know the truth cannot possible know it. the very idea is what divides people, the idea in peoples minds of being right makes then so and other not so.

the main problem is that of the anti-philosophical approach; it is with self- righteous bigots who think that their truth makes them better than others for one reason or another. religion only exasperates this problem and the more true they thing there religion is the more duality occurs.

this is an individual and societal problem where people demonize individuals and other groups that don’t fit into their idea of normal. people are pushed into corners and come out fighting or commit suicide...
...in short, we create the monsters we most fear! obviously there is too an amount of self righteousness within the individuals who commit crimes and that probably goes up exponentially according to the level of crime committed.

i think we have to address both sides, to see where the masses who gather around ranting on about this person who done this or that, then note; nobody questions the righteous! we see it all the time on the news, ‘x’ did not fit in, ‘x’ was a loner, we always though ‘x’ was a bit weird, so why did ‘x’ do it ~ because evil isn’t created it is made! both we and the said individuals make it, there is no ‘switch’ by which some people go crazy, people don’t just go mad they are driven.

hmm, obviously much of it comes down to one form of insanity or another, but are people born mad? perhaps on occasion but in the main any mental health problems people have can be dealt with, but if condemned and demonized these problems can only be exasperated.

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by _Z_

the more duality occurs.

Didn't you say we'd agreed this didn't exist?

s.

[_Z_]

lols yes, it does not exist, when it occurs in the outer world it is false.

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by _Z_

lols yes, it does not exist, when it occurs in the outer world it is false.

Is your day job a politician?

s.

[seattlegal]

We do not have to visit a madhouse to find disordered minds; our planet is the mental institution of the universe.
~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

See also this thread:
http://www.comparative-religion.com/...otes-3796.html

[wil]

Originally Posted by Snoopy

Is your day job a politician?

s.

Namaste snoop,

I liked Zs answer. To me it meant in the paradigm of the religions that claim sole ownership of truth, dualism exists. And in those religions often we find the G!d/Satan, Heaven/Hell attitudes not as one and lack but as opposites.

And yes Z I agree with the thread title.

[Snoopy]

...and yes, although it is divisive...there seems to be almost a...a...a rush to right...

s.

[_Z_]

snoopy

Is your day job a politician?

lols, no i am a builder.

...and yes, although it is divisive...there seems to be almost a...a...a rush to right...

interesting point.

seattlegal

nice quote.

wil
trust you to say it better than me!

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by _Z_

interesting point.

only a reference to the thread of that title.

(builder eh? can I have a free quote then? )

s.

[wil]

Originally Posted by _Z_

lols, no i am a builder.

Namastezee,

thanx and a builder??

talk about your divisive occupations.

myself as well.

What a wonderful testing ground to examine oneness, utilize positive thought, encourage camaraderie, nonjudgement and unconditional love!

In this industry I've succeeded in none of these goals, and am ready to move to fertile ground...

[_Z_]

aye it keeps me grounded, it isn’t the most philosophical of environments, hitler would have got many recruits.

i think i bounce off it kinda.

[China Cat Sunflower]

Righteousness occurs, like doo doo, in the duality zone. It's Capricornic.

Chris

[China Cat Sunflower]

Some people are automatically righteous, and some have to try harder. Farmers and craftsmen have a special exemption. It's hard to be righteous when you have a job where you help a corporation screw people. Lawyers and telemarketers might as well forget it.

Chris

[Dream]

it would appear that the arrow of truth splits its target in two! We know that in science you cannot have an absolutely accurate observation, is truth the same?

Good question. I suggest that maybe we just 'Can't handle the truth'. I also agree its easier to be nice depending on what your job is. In the end everybody has to recognize their limitations, instead of trying to do more than is humanly possible. "Neither be too evil nor too good. Why destroy yourself?" Ecc 7:16 When people can't grasp this, reality splits them in two. Two groups, denominations, two-faced, etc. They expect perfection and get judgmental about everything.

[cyberpi]

I think it is fairly easy to prove you wrong Z. All I have to do is say that you are wrong here, and that I am right. So then have I done as you have said, backed you into a corner where you must either come out fighting or to commit suicide? Your choice, and if you do either then you have proven yourself right, and myself wrong as it applied to you. If you claim that my words, whether right or wrong, is what would drive or cause you to either fight or to commit suicide, then it is within your power to make yourself right by doing one or the other. Whereas I can make myself right by doing neither... I expect to be wrong by other people and I recognize that I neither have to fight nor commit suicide just because all of the homework or the tests are bleeding with red ink, or the parents still disapprove of me, or the church kicks me out, or the employer fires me, etc... any imposed righteousness on me does NOT cause me to have to fight or commit suicide. Thus I must say Z... you are wrong.

But you can prove me wrong Z. I am using my righteousness to call you wrong. You are wrong. So which will you be using to prove yourself right... to prove that my righteousness here causes you to either fight or to commit suicide? Will it be a fight, or suicide?