Saddam Is Dead

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

And I didn't know immigrants are trying to get into GB, so that was new to me, then I did some checking, and guess what I found? US, GB, Australia and Canada seem to be the immigration hot spots...wonder why...

Well for GB it's the glorious climate that draws the crowds.

s.

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Snoopy

Well for GB it's the glorious climate that draws the crowds.

s.

Ah, Snoop, the Pacific Northwest would give 'em the same climate...so it must be the food...

[Tao_Equus]

Q,

As you may have noticed I am back after a long absence from these pages. Reading through several threads I had thought WOW!! Q has mellowed...been prescribed chill pills, that he's been 'born again' , that the soldier logo now replaced by a neat little celtic flower was a sign that youd gone all new age on us!! I was wrong I found you here

I wont add anything to this other than to remind you what I already told you a while back... the US borrows a billion dollars a day from China. I think thats worth more than just reading and dismissing, think on it a bit.

Regards as always

TE

[enlightenment]

TAO, you have a PM, mate.

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

Q,

As you may have noticed I am back after a long absence from these pages. Reading through several threads I had thought WOW!! Q has mellowed...been prescribed chill pills, that he's been 'born again' , that the soldier logo now replaced by a neat little celtic flower was a sign that youd gone all new age on us!! I was wrong I found you here

I wont add anything to this other than to remind you what I already told you a while back... the US borrows a billion dollars a day from China. I think thats worth more than just reading and dismissing, think on it a bit.

Regards as always

TE

The "celtic flower" is a knot representing the "Trinity".

And the billion dollars a day you refer to is a series of "short term loans" that go back and forth between the nations (specifically the major banks)...that's where prime rate comes from. The loans are for a few days at most, and a few hours normally...the Chinese are figuring out capitalism quite quickly I should think...

v/r

Joshua

[wil]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

..the Chinese are figuring out capitalism quite quickly I should think...

The Chinese are challenging the norm...a unique combination of social communism and economic capitolism....London 1800's...New York 1900's....expect Shanghai to emerge as the center of financial world early this century...or so we are told...

Oh and the base construction in Iraq is proceeding nicely...one of our largest...and this is no temporary structure from folks that have landed there or been building on it as private contractors...the size of a Texas ranch...rivals many of our public airport hubs...

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by wil

The Chinese are challenging the norm...a unique combination of social communism and economic capitolism....London 1800's...New York 1900's....expect Shanghai to emerge as the center of financial world early this century...or so we are told...

Oh and the base construction in Iraq is proceeding nicely...one of our largest...and this is no temporary structure from folks that have landed there or been building on it as private contractors...the size of a Texas ranch...rivals many of our public airport hubs...

Social communism is a misnomer. There is Socialism, or Communism...

Socialism cannot work with Capitalism...but Communism can (to an extent). Something eventually will have to give way here...

And any bases being constructed in Iraq is what it is.

[wil]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

Social communism is a misnomer. There is Socialism, or Communism...

Socialism cannot work with Capitalism...but Communism can (to an extent). Something eventually will have to give way here...

And any bases being constructed in Iraq is what it is.

Socially communist...economically capitalist..they are forging a new system...just like the democratic republic test that has been going on a couple hundred years..it'll be interesting to see how power changes hands...and if they can keep from nationalizing the highly successful entrepreneurs...and how they handle pollution...as they are destined to go through what we did in the 60's unless they make some dramatic changes now...

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by wil

Socially communist...economically capitalist..they are forging a new system...just like the democratic republic test that has been going on a couple hundred years..it'll be interesting to see how power changes hands...and if they can keep from nationalizing the highly successful entrepreneurs...and how they handle pollution...as they are destined to go through what we did in the 60's unless they make some dramatic changes now...

Owned by the state, and by the people, and by entrapeneurs at the same time? I doubt it. Like I said, something has to give...

Federal Republic, based on democratic principles...very different concept. Vote by elected representation, is a democratic concept which streamlines Republican federalism (or senatorial representation).

But you already know that.

[kiwimac]

Originally Posted by Dor

Yep did it twice and would do it again.

And anyone who wants to try to compare Bush to someone who gased his own people really needs to stop and think before they type.

Had you even read my post you would have seen that I said that Bush LIKE Hitler started a war against a nation which did not threaten him and that JUST AS Hitler's leaders were charged under the nuremberg laws with starting a war of aggression so Bush should be.

Gassing was never mentioned.

[kiwimac]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

Indeed, the butcher of Bagdad is dead. And we are going to put Bush in the same league as Saddam? On what criteria? What evidence shows western leaders (at this moment) to be the same as the one hanged for over 30 years of "leadership", and mass graves for those who opposed him?.

What pray tell has current western leaders done that would equal the reign of Saddam Huessain? Not a damn thing.

Up until six years ago, y'all never heard of George W. Bush...but you knew about Saddam. So now Bush is the bad guy? I'd like to know why. Is it because he doesn't adhere to your particular belief in the way things should be?

I wonder what would happen if the United States withdrew from every country on earth, tomorrow. All military, all ambassadors, everything... "Good riddence" you might say...but is it really?

Actually there is a way to make such happen. Pressure your respective governments to force the US out of your countries. Stop buying american goods. Cash in your american stocks and bonds. Break the American bank...and you get your wish.

Only problem is, there are enough resources in America for us to keep on going, all by our selves...we'll simply re-invent ourselves...without the rest of the world's influence.

Scary isn't it. I mean 5% of the worlds population, doesn't really need the rest of the world to survive. (not technically, not agriculturally, not economically, not energy wise, not technilogically).

But you need us, desperately. Why? We supply 3/4s of the grain, we invent more things than the rest of the world combined, we design what the rest of the world refines.

And we fight like the dickens, once committed. And we are the most loyal people you have ever met...

Yet you are right, we are idiots. We ask nothing in return (as a nation), never have.

The world is lucky actually, that we (the United States) never even considered being like imperial Rome... there wouldn't be much left if we did.

So, blame Bush lol. Afterall, he held his hand, and so did his father...

So many errors of fact it's hard to know where to begin really.

[Tao_Equus]

Following on that last post I shall pick up on one of the things said by Q.

Quote "The world is lucky actually,that we (the United States), never even considered being like Imperial Rome... there would'nt be much left if we did" Unquote.

Well Imperial Rome also worked along the lines of installing puppet goernments and used a network of garrisons to insure their compliance to the dictats of the Emperor. The United States does exactly the same. It has around 160 embassies yet has over 270 military bases in foreign countries. The parallal with Rome is strikingly clear. The murder of that horrible ex-puppet Saddam Hussain was clearly a dictat from Emperor Bush to an installed puppet government.

In addition, this American arrogance in the last part of your quote is sensible and reasoned argument? Do you think you have the non-nuclear capability of winning a war even with China alone? I dont think you do. You cant even win in Iraq. The nuclear option would win you nothing except a mutualy assured destruction.

TE

[wil]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

Owned by the state, and by the people, and by entrapeneurs at the same time? I doubt it. Like I said, something has to give...

Federal Republic, based on democratic principles...very different concept. Vote by elected representation, is a democratic concept which streamlines Republican federalism (or senatorial representation).

But you already know that.

Yeah, and then we *******ized it by electing instead of appointing Senators...and then gave non-landowners, non-businessowners the right to vote...and then direct taxes...

And to add insult to injury Maryland just voted to eliminate our presidential vote all together! If all goes the way they wish all of Marylands electoral college votes will go with the national popular vote despite the wishes of the voters in Maryland! What kind of garbage is that?

All hail the Oligarchy!

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by kiwimac

So many errors of fact it's hard to know where to begin really.

Starting from the beginning is accepted procedure...

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by kiwimac

Had you even read my post you would have seen that I said that Bush LIKE Hitler started a war against a nation which did not threaten him and that JUST AS Hitler's leaders were charged under the nuremberg laws with starting a war of aggression so Bush should be.

Gassing was never mentioned.

Saddam Hussein started the war against the United States back in 1987, when he sent two exocet missiles into the USS Stark, and damn near cut it in half. Not so much as an I'm sorry. And the anger began to build and the war machine began to turn...