Santa Claus is Biblical!

[Dondi]

Originally Posted by wil

But is it, do we?

What is the effect of Santa Claus, of secular Christmas on Christianity?

Or the obverse, what is the effect of denying Christmas and Santa Claus on Christianity?

I mean, is Santa a baby step for many to explore Christianity further, or does it detract from and/or ridicule/water down the thought?

It depends on which version of Santa Claus you subscribe to. I find the KJV Santa the best.

[mee]

Originally Posted by wil

But is it, do we?

What is the effect of Santa Claus, of secular Christmas on Christianity?

Or the obverse, what is the effect of denying Christmas and Santa Claus on Christianity?

I mean, is Santa a baby step for many to explore Christianity further, or does it detract from and/or ridicule/water down the thought?

i would say that santa claus leads people away from the truth of the bible
and drowns out the truth of the bible .




This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ. JOHN 17;3

[17th Angel]

Mee...

One of the main reasons that you, and other JW's do not partake with the christmas celebrations would be;

Because it diverts you from truth and that it is oringinally a Pagan celebration, and being a festivity of another religion makes it wrong? So you keep your hands clean? So, why do you use the days of the week and the months of the year? As they are also not christian? You base your day to day life on names from Paganism? Why is that?

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by mee

i would say that santa claus leads people away from the truth of the bible
and drowns out the truth of the bible .




This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ. JOHN 17;3

And hey dont forget denying Christmas allows you to give more of your crust to Watchtower of babel!! Tho why they want it with armageddon so close at hand beats me.

[mee]

Originally Posted by 17th Angel

Mee...

One of the main reasons that you, and other JW's do not partake with the christmas celebrations would be;

Because it diverts you from truth and that it is oringinally a Pagan celebration,

true, and the bible tells Gods people to do the following


And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if YOU do not want to share with her in her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive part of her plagues. REVELATION 18;4


who is the HER in revelation 18;4 ?


it is the (worldwide empire of false religion)babylon the great


and she is into many things that misled people .


and it starts at a very early age , people become very indoctrinated.


but it will be good when Gods kingdom takes over , and then things can be put right ,
but even now the God of the bible is gathering a GREAT CROWD that are slowly but surely being educated in Gods ways REVELATION 7;9-10 and they are from all nations,


just imagine what it will be like when all of the influnce of false religion will be no more .



and the educating goes on ,

i wonder what new things will be told out in the future ,


looking to the channel that Jesus is feeding will be the thing to do matthew 24;45-47


one step at a time ,

at one time even JW celebrated christmas , but the revealing of putting ourselves inline with the bible and what it teaches, has cast false beliefs out the window.


i wonder what the next thing will be THRILLING TIMES


HUMILITY WORKS WONDERS

[mee]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

And hey dont forget denying Christmas allows you to give more of your crust to Watchtower of babel!! Tho why they want it with armageddon so close at hand beats me.

Ithink it is more like this



And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if YOU do not want to share with her in her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive part of her plagues. revelation 18;4


listening to Jesus is the way to go ,

and then we can do the following

And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come. matthew 24;14

advertize, advertize , advertize,

(Daniel 2:44) “And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite;


(Matthew 6:10) Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth.

[17th Angel]

So, why do you use the days and months? I kind of missed that point....

[mee]

Originally Posted by 17th Angel

So, why do you use the days and months? I kind of missed that point....

Various calendar systems have been developed by men in the past, and a number continue in use today.



who knows what God has in store for us along the way , only time will tell .

its the same with wedding rings i think that is from pagan beliefs , maybe later we will not have them either who knows?


i will hang around to find out what the channel that Jesus is feeding will reveal about many things matthew 24;45-47

and what i like about it, is the way that it is always inline with the bible


the light gets ever brighter and ever clearer.


but the important thing at this time is this following verse .



(Mark 13:10) Also, in all the nations the good news has to be preached first.



and then the people who respond to the GOODNEWS can go along with the channel that Jesus is feeding . matthew 24;45-47

[mee]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

And hey dont forget denying Christmas allows you to give more of your crust to Watchtower of babel!! Tho why they want it with armageddon so close at hand beats me.

Jehovah’s people realize that they have a limited time to do their work. Therefore, they keep offering themselves willingly for sacred service.


and the fact that armageddon is so close makes the work so much more urgent.


and the gathering of the GREAT CROWD goes on revelation 7;9-10


For to this end we are working hard and exerting ourselves, because we have rested our hope on a living God, who is a Savior of all sorts of men, especially of faithful ones.1 TIMOTHY 4;10



GO ...therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded YOU. And, look! I am with YOU all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.” MATTHEW 28;19-20


The command from Jesus was to GO and make disciples or learners, no not learners of myths like santa claus , but learners of Jesus and his teachings .

thats what JW do , they stick to Jesus and what he taught .


and if they find that they have been contaminated along the way, they are willing and humble enough to cast it away from them.

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Saltmeister

I take it word Santa means "holy" in Spanish. What about the clause?

It means "saint"

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

And hey dont forget denying Christmas allows you to give more of your crust to Watchtower of babel!! Tho why they want it with armageddon so close at hand beats me.

Tao...'tis the season...be seasonable...

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by 17th Angel

Mee...

One of the main reasons that you, and other JW's do not partake with the christmas celebrations would be;

Because it diverts you from truth and that it is oringinally a Pagan celebration, and being a festivity of another religion makes it wrong? So you keep your hands clean? So, why do you use the days of the week and the months of the year? As they are also not christian? You base your day to day life on names from Paganism? Why is that?

I'd rather have dirty hands, but a humble heart during this time...

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by mee

i would say that santa claus leads people away from the truth of the bible
and drowns out the truth of the bible .




This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ. JOHN 17;3

I wish I could find it. There is a picture of Santa, kneeling before the manger and Our Lord, with the caption "the true meaning of Christmas..."

I would say Santa Claus leads people closer to the truth of the bible. It is the one time of the year, we speak more softly, we give more freely, we don't think so much of our selves, we go out of our way for another human being...isn't that what Jesus commanded us to do?

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by mee

Jehovah’s people realize that they have a limited time to do their work. Therefore, they keep offering themselves willingly for sacred service.


and the fact that armageddon is so close makes the work so much more urgent.


and the gathering of the GREAT CROWD goes on revelation 7;9-10


For to this end we are working hard and exerting ourselves, because we have rested our hope on a living God, who is a Savior of all sorts of men, especially of faithful ones.1 TIMOTHY 4;10



GO ...therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded YOU. And, look! I am with YOU all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.” MATTHEW 28;19-20


The command from Jesus was to GO and make disciples or learners, no not learners of myths like santa claus , but learners of Jesus and his teachings .

thats what JW do , they stick to Jesus and what he taught .


and if they find that they have been contaminated along the way, they are willing and humble enough to cast it away from them.

No one knows the hour, not even Jesus, only the father...so rather than quibble about what might be, why not deal with what is now? for each man is alotted 24 hours, that is all we know. Plan for tomorrow, but live today, and take each breath for what it is worth, as God intended us to do...

[flowperson]

This article is kind of off topic as it doesn't pertain specifically to Santa Claus, but it does address some of the reasons why the Roman Church picked December 25 to celebrate Jesus' birth.
Happy Christmas All !

flow....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071223/...H7L0K_FsCs0NUE