Santa V God

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by juantoo3

Whoa, wait a minute.

After what you said about Hitler, you back peddle here?

What is good for the goose, is good for the gander.

Either both are, or both are not, to be held to the same standard? Sounds like selective interpretation to me.

Trying to say Hitler did what he did "in the name of Catholism (or Christianity, your pick)" is patently untrue. So sorry but that holds no water. Hitler may have technically been a Catholic but he did not do what he did in the name of Catholicism.

Backpeddling? I have had both Netti and SG hold atheism "responsible", as the "cause" of death for 100s of millions of people when this is patently untrue. It was not me who sought to paint Hitler as an atheist on an atheistic cause and I was simply setting the record straight.

This is exactly what I said " The Nazi's were Catholic, they attended Catholic services, got married and baptised in the Catholic church by Catholic priests who saw nothing wrong with giving the Nazi salute." I do not try to say that they did what they did in the name of Catholicism but that Catholicism continued unhindered under the Nazi regime. In fact there is plenty of evidence to support the idea that they profited enormously from it.

It is no double standard. It would be incorrect for me to state that Hitler waged death on a Catholic ideology and its is equally incorrect to state that Stalin did so with an Atheistic one. In both cases it was flag waving dogmatic nationalism with a heavy thread of self-superiority that 'rallied' the people. Sound familiar?

tao

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by juantoo3

I'm not Netti, but I would say that is pretty close to where I am at. And from what I gather about Tao's GAIA theory, it sounds pretty close to what I understand him to be saying, *too*.

I am open to correction though on this last part.

I see Gaia as an organism, not a God.

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by Netti-Netti

Flew went on: "It could be a person in the sense of a being that has intelligence and a purpose, I suppose." Yes, I suppose.

Really sounds like the man has thought it through does it not? He based his conversion on things he did not understand about DNA. Sorry but to me the whole thing stinks and my only thought is "what the hell did they have on him".

It doesn't sound especially different from a fairly traditional G-d concept. Certainly the G-d of the Abrahamic religions was intelligent and purposeful.

You forgot to include murderous, trivial, despotic, unreasonable, sexist, racist and whole lot of other characteristics. But I dont put it to well. I post a link to an American who does:

YouTube - George Carlin - Religion is bull****.

[China Cat Sunflower]

Originally Posted by Netti-Netti

It doesn't sound especially different from a fairly traditional G-d concept. Certainly the G-d of the Abrahamic religions was intelligent and purposeful.

The God of the abrahamic tradition is a megalomaniacal nut. This is why I don't even like using the word God. I see patterns of conscious intelligence in the universe. I see it in the things and processes that make up life. I could call that God, but it has nothing to do with the anthropomorphic, judeo-Disney God of the abrahamic traditions who is essentially an egragore of his devotees worship.

Chris

[Netti-Netti]

Originally Posted by China Cat Sunflower

The God of the abrahamic tradition is a megalomaniacal nut. This is why I don't even like using the word God. I see patterns of conscious intelligence in the universe. I see it in the things and processes that make up life. I could call that God, but it has nothing to do with the anthropomorphic, judeo-Disney God of the abrahamic traditions who is essentially an egragore of his devotees worship.

Chris, you are blessed with intellectual honesty.

I appreciate your concerns. Just as puzzling and embarassing is worship behavior without any real effort to sort out the issues, without any awareness even of the possibility of conflating humankind's imperfect renderings of what G-d is like with G-d's nature.

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by Netti-Netti

Chris, you are blessed with intellectual honesty.

I appreciate your concerns. Just as puzzling and embarassing is worship behavior without any real effort to sort out the issues, without any awareness even of the possibility of conflating humankind's imperfect renderings of what G-d is like with G-d's nature.

As Carlin says there are all these billlllllions of people trying to "conflate" their reality on "God" and its his friggen day off!! It aint easy being a supreme being!

tao

[Tao_Equus]

And for the record as of now I am no longer going to pull any punches, no more self censorship, no dishonesty, no more pandering to others fragile ego's.... from now on I give it the only way i can ....from the heart. That is not always a warm place.


tao

[Netti-Netti]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

YouTube - George Carlin - Religion is bull****.

George Carlin is right. The Icescapades are proof that G-d does not exist.
: Whatever Dude :

And for the record as of now I am no longer going to pull any punches, no more self censorship, no dishonesty, no more pandering to others fragile ego's.... from now on I give it the only way i can ....from the heart. That is not always a warm place.

Oh dear.
: Chuckle :

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

And for the record as of now I am no longer going to pull any punches, no more self censorship, no dishonesty, no more pandering to others fragile ego's.... from now on I give it the only way i can ....from the heart. That is not always a warm place.


tao

lol, guess who was on the whisky last night

[China Cat Sunflower]

Gin makes me mean.

Chris

[seattlegal]

Originally Posted by China Cat Sunflower

Gin makes me mean.

Chris

Would that be Gin or Jinn?

[China Cat Sunflower]

Originally Posted by seattlegal

Would that be Gin or Jinn?

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by China Cat Sunflower

Gin makes me mean.

Chris

lol, me too, and tequila gives me blackouts even after moderate drinking.

[China Cat Sunflower]

Tequila makes me bullet proof. The fewer clothes the more so, evidently!

Chris

[Netti-Netti]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

lol, guess who was on the whisky last night

Not to worry. The spirit of love came through.