scriptural basis for christian objection to homosexuality

[niranjan]

Originally Posted by paul

It isn't juantoo3 who is liking homosexuals to dogs and other animals,.

Well, I believe he indeed did that.

Originally Posted by paul

i believe this is the argument being used to describe homosexuality as natural.

Then why on earth is homosexuality there in the first place, since ancient history.

I don't find males sexually attractive. And if people, in many countries , find themselves sexually attracted to males, then I must say that there is some natural problem or affiliation.

Originally Posted by paul

It may be he's more pointing out, although we have animals passions, we don't have to act on them.

I guess everyone should be chaste as the virgin mary then.

Originally Posted by paul

There are peodophiles, and many with all kinds of passions, murder, whatever, if we just say it's an animal passion then we have an excuse for any evil.

I don't agree with paedophilia, even with the consent of the child, but if adult homosexual males want to have some fun with each other with their mutual consent, then I think they should be given the right for that. Blame God for putting these desires in them in the first place.

[wil]

Originally Posted by niranjan

Blame God for putting these desires in them in the first place.

What is with all the blame? Blame G-d for this, the Brits for that, the Americans over there.

[niranjan]

Originally Posted by wil

What is with all the blame? Blame G-d for this, the Brits for that, the Americans over there.

Well, you indeed must blame or criticize. That is how most of the evils have ended.

[wil]

Originally Posted by niranjan

Well, you indeed must blame or criticize. That is how most of the evils have ended.

So since you blame and criticize G-d you consider G-d evil, and are intent on ending G-d? Please explain.

[niranjan]

Originally Posted by wil

So since you blame and criticize G-d you consider G-d evil, and are intent on ending G-d? Please explain.

Well, I intend to show God His own wrongs and hypocrisy as well.

As they say, no one is perfect.

[wil]

Originally Posted by niranjan

Well, I intend to show God His own wrongs and hypocrisy as well.

Will you be televising this event? Posting it on YouTube, inviting an audience? If it is not proprietary I'd love to hear/see what you've prepared for this effort.

[juantoo3]

Originally Posted by niranjan

Well, I believe he indeed did that.

You believe a lot of things incorrectly, what is one more in your already long list since you've been here?

[niranjan]

Originally Posted by wil

Will you be televising this event? Posting it on YouTube, inviting an audience? If it is not proprietary I'd love to hear/see what you've prepared for this effort.

And what is the need for me to do that. It is common knowledge, at least among those with an intelligent mind.

[niranjan]

Originally Posted by juantoo3

You believe a lot of things incorrectly

And you on the other hand, even if put facts in front of you, will refuse to believe them , as you don't want to remove your rose-tinted glasses.

[wil]

Originally Posted by niranjan

And what is the need for me to do that. It is common knowledge, at least among those with an intelligent mind.

So amongst those with an intelligent mind it is common knowledge that G-d is wrong.

Please provide the websites, texts, authors, which indicate this. As it is common knowledge I would bet it is written upon extensively.

And if it were common knowledge why would G-d need you to set him right? Has he been waiting for your incarnation for millenia to point out all the faults and set them correct?

Why would not others have done this with all the common knowledge out there on same?

[niranjan]

Originally Posted by wil

So amongst those with an intelligent mind it is common knowledge that G-d is wrong.

I didn't say that God was completely wrong. I only said that some of his teachings are idiotic, like slavery and rulings against homosexuality.

[juantoo3]

Originally Posted by niranjan

And you on the other hand, even if put facts in front of you, will refuse to believe them , as you don't want to remove your rose-tinted glasses.

You have yet to lay the very first fact before anybody here. What you are calling fact is little more than your opinion. So you might want to consider your comment here for yourself...

[Dondi]

Originally Posted by niranjan

I didn't say that God was completely wrong. I only said that some of his teachings are idiotic, like slavery and rulings against homosexuality.

Would you be kind enough to quote specific references to these "idiotic" teachings so as to elicit a proper response?

[niranjan]

Originally Posted by Dondi

Would you be kind enough to quote specific references to these "idiotic" teachings so as to elicit a proper response?

Well, I know that the abrahamic religions forbid homosexuality as an evil. And you can find guys arguing with me on this.

And I know that Paul advocated slavery, which was told to me by a good christian friend of mine.

And you can find Wil himself saying that the bible advocating slavery ( though i am not aware of jesus saying this ). So you can ask him on this.

Peace

[juantoo3]

Kindest Regards, niranjan, and peace to you as well!

Originally Posted by niranjan

Well, I know that the abrahamic religions forbid homosexuality as an evil. And you can find guys arguing with me on this.

And I know that Paul advocated slavery, which was told to me by a good christian friend of mine.

And you can find Wil himself saying that the bible advocating slavery ( though i am not aware of jesus saying this ). So you can ask him on this.

Peace

This is what another person was trying to tell you about catching more flies with honey than with vinegar.

A peaceful dialogue will gather more and better responses than pushing everyone away with anger and hatred.

I am not speaking of agreement, I am speaking of tolerance.

I sincerely hope you will continue to use this kind of dialogue. Thanks.