Seriously...Who does Jesus think He is? - Page 6

Dor · 03-03-2007, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Quahom1

"Let he who is perfect, cast the first stone..." (Jesus).

In short, I am embarrassed, for you.

First it is he who is without sin.
Second the embarrased feeling works both ways.
Third we are supposed to judge everything check your Bible.
Fourth if you love someone you will correct them. Think about it would you let your son play in the road or correct him. Its the same analogy to us....I am not willing to not correct someone if I feel heaven and hell could result from it. I love everyone to much to bite my tongue so not to offend people.

mee · 03-06-2007, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Silas

Mee, the Bible is much like a tortured prisoner. If you twist it long and hard enough, you can get it to pretty much say whatever you want. ALL of the Christians here have showed you the correct understanding of scripture using proper hermanutics, classic historical views, early church history, correct Hebrew and Greek understanding of words, and you still choose to follow an organization who claims to be a prophet of God and who has already so many false prophecies. If you keep hardinging your heart against truth, you'll believe lies.

bible prophecy is never false,and it always comes true , the heavenly kingdom is now well established Daniel 2;44 . right on time inline with bible prophecy and chronology .and the rightful heir to the kingship is now a reigning king. those who do not harden their hearts will recieve many blessings and good spiritual food from this reigning king .
When Jesus’ presence began in 1914, did he find a group of anointed Christians who were faithfully dispensing food at the proper time? He certainly did. This group could be clearly identified because of the fine fruitage that it was producing. (Matthew 7:20) History since then has proved this identification to be correct.its all happening in this time of the end ,faithfulness leads to great blessings , one of which is enlightenment indeed , unfaithfulness leads to spiritual darkness ,with no light at all . i am glad to say that the faithful ones are shining very brightly indeed . but many prefer to go into the darkness away from the shining light. but me i love to go to the channel that Jesus is giving many blessings too. taste and see that Jehovah is good.i am full to the brim with lots of good things

Silas · 03-06-2007, 04:54 PM

There you go again being double minded. Yes, bible prophecies are 100% true, but JW predictions arent. There's NOTHING in the Bible to suggest anything about 1914. Do you realize how crazy that sounds?

mee · 03-07-2007, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Silas

There's NOTHING in the Bible to suggest anything about 1914.

bible prophecy and chronology

just as Jesus fullfilled all the prophecies back in his day , but alas , the religious leaders did not recognise him as the son of God.so it is today the ones who claim to represent him , do not recognise fullfilled bible prophecy. and in doing so they do not welcome Jesus kingship. the appointed times of the nations (times of the gentiles)ended in 1914 .and this is the time when Jesus recieved his kingship .so going back to the thread theme.........seriously....who does Jesus think he is? Jesus knows that he has been given great aurthorityand rulership .Daniel 7;13-14and he knows he is a reigning king with the legal right to the kingship.dont dismiss bible prophecy just as the religious leaders in Jesus day dismissed Jesus

mee · 03-14-2007, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Dor

Mee Jesus is the mediator between man and God he does not need some earthly orginization.

yes Jesus directs his faithful ones by providing good things . matthew 24;45-47
And the Lord said: "Who really is the faithful steward, the discreet one, whom his master will appoint over his body of attendants to keep giving them their measure of food supplies at the proper time? Happy is that slave, if his master on arriving finds him doing so! I tell YOU truthfully, He will appoint him over all his belongings luke 12;42-44

(Matthew 25:21) His master said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful slave! You were faithful over a few things. I will appoint you over many things. Enter into the joy of your master.’

(Luke 12:44) I tell YOU truthfully, He will appoint him over all his belongings.

Silas · 03-14-2007, 11:44 PM

Mee, you never answered me on the questions I had concerning Jesus and the Holy Spirit. If all 3 persons, namely, Father, Son, Spirit, all have the same attributes, e.g., immutablity, eternality, ominipresence, etc., and all recieve praise and worship, and all are credited with the Ressurrection of Jesus, Creation, etc., then why arent JWs admitting that Jesus is Almight God? Why call Jesus an angel when the Bible doesnt?

Dont you fear God?

Quahom1 · 03-14-2007, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberpi

Is a person punished by the words they hear, or by the words they speak?

No, but by the malice behind them.

Quahom1 · 03-14-2007, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dor

First it is he who is without sin.
Second the embarrased feeling works both ways.
Third we are supposed to judge everything check your Bible.
Fourth if you love someone you will correct them. Think about it would you let your son play in the road or correct him. Its the same analogy to us....I am not willing to not correct someone if I feel heaven and hell could result from it. I love everyone to much to bite my tongue so not to offend people.

Indeed. However, the market isn't cornered on correcting others...sometimes we need to be corrected by others. That is the hard part.

Quahom1 · 03-15-2007, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Silas

Mee, you never answered me on the questions I had concerning Jesus and the Holy Spirit. If all 3 persons, namely, Father, Son, Spirit, all have the same attributes, e.g., immutablity, eternality, ominipresence, etc., and all recieve praise and worship, and all are credited with the Ressurrection of Jesus, Creation, etc., then why arent JWs admitting that Jesus is Almight God? Why call Jesus an angel when the Bible doesnt?

Dont you fear God?

I suspect he fears God as much as you. JWs consider Jesus to be a Mighty God, not a Mighty god, or an angel. The Holy Spirit is a "force" not a person IAW JW thinking. Only God the Father is God ALMIGHTY.

Mee has explained his/her thinking on this over, and over again. Try listening.

v/r

Joshua

Silas · 03-15-2007, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Quahom1

I suspect he fears God as much as you. JWs consider Jesus to be a Mighty God, not a Mighty god, or an angel. The Holy Spirit is a "force" not a person IAW JW thinking. Only God the Father is God ALMIGHTY.

Mee has explained his/her thinking on this over, and over again. Try listening.

v/r

Joshua

I know of the herseies they teach. Plus I learned more over 2 nights, thanks to a helpful member of this site. Mee has yet to answer any of my questions where which I show that both Jesus is God. By the way, if in fact they believe Jesus is a "mighty God" as you said, is there two Gods? According to the God of Holy writ, He doesnt know of any other god besides Himself. Moreover, how is Holy Spirit an "active force" when He can be lied to and blaphemed?

Let Mee answer,

Silas

Quahom1 · 03-15-2007, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Silas

I know of the herseies they teach. Plus I learned more over 2 nights, thanks to a helpful member of this site. Mee has yet to answer any of my questions where which I show that both Jesus is God. By the way, if in fact they believe Jesus is a "mighty God" as you said, is there two Gods? According to the God of Holy writ, He doesnt know of any other god besides Himself. Moreover, how is Holy Spirit an "active force" when He can be lied to and blaphemed?

Let Mee answer,

Silas

Silas, Mee has answered these question here on CR. Many, many times. Go look them up. Second, your constant tugging at a particular member is inappropriate.

I am trying to be nice...please heed my message.

v/r

Joshua

Faithfulservant · 03-15-2007, 12:58 AM

Inhumility also comes here and says the same things over and over but he is allowed to.. Mee also comes here and says the same things over and over is allowed to.. we also have numerous threads where people ask the same questions over and over and they are allowed.. you yourself tangled with mee a good long while.. why is silas suddenly not allowed to. I think its bullying.

mee · 03-15-2007, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Silas

Mee, you never answered me on the questions I had concerning Jesus and the Holy Spirit. If all 3 persons, namely, Father, Son, Spirit, all have the same attributes, e.g., immutablity, eternality, ominipresence, etc., and all recieve praise and worship, and all are credited with the Ressurrection of Jesus, Creation, etc., then why arent JWs admitting that Jesus is Almight God? Why call Jesus an angel when the Bible doesnt?

Dont you fear God?

as you yourself said ,..... IF ALL...... it seems many people have many thoughts , but not always according to accurate knbowledge of the bible .so as JW thoughts are not according to the thoughts of many people, we stick to the bible we dont take on manmade traditions so we could never admit that Jesus is the Almighty because it is not a bible teaching. and yes i do fear God in that i would never want to displease him by teaching an untruth and a lie .
"Fear the true God and keep his commandments. For this is the whole obligation of man."—ECCLESIASTES 12:13.
"If only they would develop this heart of theirs to fear me and to keep all my commandments always."—DEUTERONOMY 5:29.
"Let all the earth fear Jehovah."—Ps. 33:8

That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah,

You alone are the Most High over all the earth.psalm 83;18

Dor · 03-15-2007, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mee

so as JW thoughts are not according to the thoughts of many people, we stick to the bible we dont take on manmade traditions.

Sure you want to say this?

juantoo3 · 03-15-2007, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberpi

Is a person punished by the words they hear, or by the words they speak?

What keeps a psychiatrist employed if not the acts and words that negatively impact and echo in a person's mind? If momma tells you that you are stupid enough times, you begin to believe you are stupid.

You are what you think you are. So yes, a person can be punished by the words they hear, sometimes for a whole lifetime.

That does not negate your point about words spoken punishing, so the proper answer in my opinion is "both."