signs pointing to a muslim leader/warrior?

[Friend]

Originally Posted by freind

Greetings InChristallways,

I think you are mistaking me for Friend [spelt: FRI...]
and I am freind [spelt: FRE... [I'm not a good speller]

But what you say is right, Muslims are part "Christians" and their are members of other faiths and athiests in goverments of the west, and Christianity isn't out to dominate and rule the world.

But nonetheless, America [and its allies] that have dominated the world, are primarily Christian nations.

PEACE.

Salaam Freind ..Why you take this user name??

I registered before you !!!

Is it by a chance ........

Ok InChristAlways,,,, ,,When I have a time I will discuss your questions.

Allah Bless all
Laila

[InChristAlways]

Originally Posted by freind
Greetings InChristallways,

I think you are mistaking me for Friend [spelt: FRI...]
and I am freind [spelt: FRE... [I'm not a good speller]

Ok ,,Salaam Freind ..Why you take this username??

I registered before you !!!

Is it by a chance ........

Ok InChristAlways,,,, ,,When I have a time I will discuss your questions.

Allah Bless all
Laila

EEEEEEK!!! I didn't realize they were different. I didn't have my glasses on either LOL. Peace.
Steve

[Saltmeister]

Originally Posted by freind

Where it says in my above post "when all of the above signs have appeared, the Christians will dominate the world and become its rulers", I think were at that stage now, or it could be that the domination and rule of the world by the Christian west will be further consolidated by establishing their puppet governments all over the world [in countries where they desire more influence and control; as they have done in Iraq] and in the decades to follow, we could be seeing the unfolding of the above events [signs].

Peace.

I actually live in one of those countries you're talking about -- one of the Western countries -- America, Britain, Australia, France, Germany, etc. I won't tell you which one, though.

These countries are no longer "Christian." The governments are actually atheist. There may be Christians working in the government, but they are only there to serve the State. I think you might be surprised to find out how few Christians actually exist in these countries.

I wouldn't say Western governments are evil. They are actually looking for ways to achieve world peace. It's just that they see so much violence happening in the Middle East that think they might as well intervene!!! They want the world to be a better place too.

Western governments are political systems founded on systems of rules and protocols. Atheists believe that world peace can be achieved if we follow the right rules. Atheists simply believe that Islamic governments are following the wrong rules. They oppose Islam not because they are evil, but because they don't agree with Islam.

I'm not particularly interested in politics myself, but because I live in a Western country, I know how people think here. Our governments and people are constantly thinking up ideas to help people in poorer countries. A lot of people say the West is "arrogant" in trying to help poorer countries and thinking that they need help in the first place. America aspires to be the police force/sheriff of world peace in the world.

Anyway, no -- the world is not dominated by "the Christian West" as you might think. The West is atheist nowadays. The West wants to be atheist and wants to expel Christian teachings from government, and Christians are now turning more and more away from politics.

The world has certainly changed so much in the last century that people in Muslim countries have not noticed Christianity being expelled from Western governments. Muslims in Western countries know this, but those in Islamic countries are still being taught that "the West is Christian."

Some still believe that to be Western is to be Christian and to be Christian is to be Western.

[freind]

Salaam friend!,

Sorry,

I should have checked wether there was anyone with the same name...

Lets just hope that no one gets us mixed up for each other.

they all should soon know that there are two friends, spelt slightly differently ofcourse.

And anyway, your posts are much more nicer, with more wisdom and intellect oozing out of them so they're propbably going to know which one is yuors and which ones are mines just by the contents of the posts.

Salaam.

[InChristAlways]

quote Friend.......... Being satisfied, the Imaam will slow down his speed and will reach Syria after settlin the affairs of countries on his way.

soon after the arival of the Imaam in Syria, the Dajjal will actually appear. He will be from the Jews. He will appear between syria and Iraq and will claim to be a Prophet, he will go to asfahan where seventy thousand Jews will join him, then he will declare himself to be God............

quote ICA: Here is "Christ" with His army Islam/Christ-ans coming to conquer His enemies, ones who battle against the Great Prophet Jesus and Muhammed:

Reve 19:13 He [was] clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, followed Him on white horses.

Hebrews 1:13 And unto which of the messengers said He ever, `Sit at My right hand, till I may make thine enemies thy footstool?' [psalm 110:1]

Originally Posted by freind

Greetings InChristallways,

I think you are mistaking me for Friend [spelt: FRI...]
and I am freind [spelt: FRE... [I'm not a good speller]

But what you say is right, Muslims are part "Christians" and their are members of other faiths and athiests in goverments of the west, and Christianity isn't out to dominate and rule the world.

But nonetheless, America [and its allies] that have dominated the world, are primarily Christian nations.

PEACE.

Hi Freind: How does your religion view the Book of Daniel and Ezekiel as they also refer to the EndTimes? Have any Muslim scholars delved into those Books of the OT by any chance, as Mohammed's visions are very close to it. Thanks and Peace.
Steve

.....soon after the arival of the Imaam in Syria, the Dajjal will actually appear. He will be from the Jews.....

Ezekiel 21:25 And thou, wounded, wicked one, Prince of Israel, whose day hath come, In the time of the iniquity of the end!

.....He will appear between syria and Iraq and will claim to be a Prophet, he will go to asfahan where seventy thousand Jews will join him, then he will declare himself to be God............

Daniel 11: 37 "He shall regard neither the God of his fathers nor the desire of women, nor regard any god; for he shall exalt himself above [them] all. 38 "But in their place he shall honor a god of fortresses; and a god which his fathers did not know he shall honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and pleasant things...................44 "But news from the east and the north shall trouble him; therefore he shall go out with great fury to destroy and annihilate many. 45 "And he shall plant the tents of his palace between the seas and the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and no one will help him.

Matthew 24:6 "And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all [these things] must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

[Friend]

Originally Posted by InChristAlways

Hi Friend. God/Allah rules the world through His faithfull chosen.
There are also plenty of Atheists and various other religions in our government and "Christ"-ians aren't out for world domination, but to bring peace and love that is of God the Father.

Muslims are also "part Christ-ian" are they not?

Salaam

According to Islamic point of view ..we all Muslims ,and All prophets were came to present Islam

Muslims believe that Allah (God) sent a series of prophets to earth, to teach about His nature and His guidance for human beings. From Adam to Muhammad, they all shared the same message.

Jesus’ true name, according to the Qur’an, was ‘Isa. His message was pure Islam, surrender to Allah. (Âl 'Imran 3:84)
3:84. Say: "We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the prophets, from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another among them, and to Allah do we bow our will (in Islam)."



Like all the Muslim prophets before him, and like Muhammad after him, ‘Isa was a lawgiver, and Christians should submit to his law. (Âl 'Imran 3:50; Al-Ma’idah 5:48) ‘Isa’s original disciples were also true Muslims, for they said ‘We believe. Bear witness that we have surrendered. We are Muslims.’ (Al-Ma’idah 5:111)
5:111. "And behold! I inspired the disciples to have faith in Me and Mine Messenger. they said, 'We have faith, and do thou bear witness that we bow to Allah as Muslims'".

Thanks

[BlaznFattyz]

isnt the mahdi supposed to reign for 7 years?

[InChristAlways]

Ezekiel 21:25 And thou, wounded, wicked one, Prince of Israel, whose day hath come, In the time of the iniquity of the end!

Daniel 11: 37 "He shall regard neither the God of his fathers nor the desire of women, nor regard any god; for he shall exalt himself above [them] all.

Hi Friend. God/Allah rules the world through His faithfull chosen.
There are also plenty of Atheists and various other religions in our government and "Christ"-ians aren't out for world domination, but to bring peace and love that is of God the Father.

Muslims are also "part Christ-ian" are they not?

Muslims believe that Allah (God) sent a series of prophets to earth, to teach about His nature and His guidance for human beings. From Adam to Muhammad, they all shared the same message.

Jesus’ true name, according to the Qur’an, was ‘Isa. His message was pure Islam, surrender to Allah. (Âl 'Imran 3:84)
3:84. Say: "We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the prophets, from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another among them, and to Allah do we bow our will (in Islam)."

He Friend and thank you for that. I also bow the knee to God and His will..

May I ask why muslims do not look to the Apostle Paul as a prophet sent by God or do they? He also visioned an "antichrist" coming in the endtime [as shown in Daniel 11:37]Peace.
Steve

2 thess 2: 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. 5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains [will do so] until He is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming.

[thipps]

Originally Posted by BlaznFattyz

isnt the mahdi supposed to reign for 7 years?

Yes.
‘Ali (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: "The Messenger of Allaah (pbuh) said: ‘The Mahdi is one of us, a member of my family. Allaah will guide him in a single night.’" (Musnad Ahmad, 2/58, hadeeth 645, edited by Ahmad al-Shaakir, who said: its isnaad is saheeh; Sunan Ibn Maajah, 2/1367. This hadeeth was also classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Jaami’ al-Sagheer, 6735). Ibn Katheer said: "This means that Allaah will forgive him, grant him help, inspire him and guide him, when he was not like this before." (Al-Nihaayah, al-Fitan wa’l-Malaahim, 1/29; edited by Taha Zayni).
Another hadith of possible interest is below:
‘Abdullaah ibn Mas’ood(may Allaah be pleased with him) reported that the Prophet (pbuh) said: "The world will not come to an end until the Arabs are ruled by a man from my family whose name will be the same as mine." (Musnad Ahmad, 5/199, hadeeth 3573. Another version says: "… whose name is the same as mine and whose father’s name is the same as my father’s." Sunan Abi Dawud, 11/370).
Hope this helped.
And Allaah knows best.

[redindica]

Originally Posted by Amica

Salaam.

There are some signs before the emergance of Mahdi. These are:

1) Nations will unite to fight Muslims.
2) Many Muslims will die/be martyred and driven out all the way towards Mecca and Madinah
3) There will be a great war against Muslims led by Christians and the dajjal.

The war has already began in many areas around the world, but the Mahdi I believe has yet to come.

Hi All...sorry havent read all of this thread but was struck by the comments on this post by Amica.

Amica, this sounds just like The Crusades againt Islam by Europeans when ALL of Christianity was against islam (which is not the case at the moment, witness Kosovo), it seems that the Mah'di should have arrived years ago.

[Amica]

Peace be to all of you.
Sorry it took me so long to reply. I had to buy a new computer and that is why I was away.

Anyway, some of you commented of: a) whether the nations will rise against Muslims because of their religion or politics or both and b) that the war against Muslims sounds like the Crusades and taht Mahdi should have appeared.

To the first comment/question: I believe that the reason for war against Muslims by the nations of the world will be political and religious. Religious because Dajjal/antichrist will demand worship and Muslims will never worship him. Political because the culture of the world will be so bad that the behaviours of the people will go against Islam (drugs, murders, terrorism, adultery, prostitution, disrepsect to parents, disbelief in God and His commandments, people will fornicate on the side walks, weather storms, great poverty due to greed of the rich and lack of help to the poor, etc). Muslims are to divide into 73 groups and only one will enter Heaven. Jews are to divide into 71 group and one is to go to Heaven. Christians are to divide into 72 groups and one will go to Heaven. Muslims will go through great tribulation so that they will be killed in many numbers. Prophet Muhammad savs advised Muslims to remember the first 10 ayat/verses of the Surah al-Kahf during the Last Days and one needs to read them to understand what he was trying to convey. Also, the whole surah in question is a lesson to remember.

To the second comment: in regards to the crusades I believe they may be a beginning of the war against Muslims. Bosnia and Kosovo are no exception. After all the Holy Bible reminds us that at the End Times there will be false peace in the world. Just as an example, both Bosnia and Kosovo are fairly false peace negotiations Bosnia has 49% of its land still fairly occupied and 95% ethnically cleansed by Serbs. Kosovo is about the same and there is still UN troops there. So, the true peace is no where in sight. Muslims are still everywhere but Imam Mahdi still has to come, because the true attack of the non-Muslims, I believe, did not take place yet. Non-Muslims have positioned themselves militarily in the Muslims lands recently with the pretense of whatever else but the attacks. But it probably will be inevitable. Our prophecies teach us that the dajjal and his forces will drive away Muslims all the way to the Medina and Mecca. He will occupy everything but these two cities. This kind of tells you the state of the affairs. Muslims will grow strong after that only when Imam Mahdi comes because he will unite all of the Muslims of the world and with his military command he will defeat the forces of the antichrist. Finally, Jesus pbuh will help to destroy dajjal antichrist once and for all.

Black banners are the signs of Imam Mahdi's coming, but he is not here yet. Also, one must remember that this just Imam won't appoint himself but will be pressured to accept the religious and political leadership of the Muslims world wide. He won't be divider but uniter of the Muslims. Anyone claiming to be Mahdi on their own is a fake. And anyone not being recongized by majority of Muslims as Imam Mahdi then there are reasons for that

In regards to the Christians, there will be a group of Christians who will ally themselves with Muslims during the first phase of the attacks on the Muslims. They will win the first part of the war together but their relationship will grow sour over how the war was won: by the blessings of Islam or the cross. Prophet Muhammad savs said that the full blown conflict between Mulsims and former christian allies will occur after a Muslim in his anger over a Christian's claim of the blessings of the cross will kill the Christian. This battle will be fierce and will occur before the Mahdi, Jesus' coming and the appearance of the ignorant evil dajjal/antichrist. Also, there is one hadith that says that there will be Christians with 80 banners trying to make peace in the world but they will be prevented and in actuallity will assist the destruction of the world (perhaps out of anger, or trying in a wrong way).

Since Jews are still waiting for a Messiah and did not recongize Jesus pbuh the majority of them will follow the antichrist/dajjal. Also, majority of the Jews are stated in the Qur'an to be the sworn enemies of the Muslims.

I hope I answered your comments/questions. I will come back to see replies.
Peace be with all of you.