Solution for Humanity!!!

[Radunzel]

Find the word sunni in the quran for me and i shall justifiably convert everyone by the sword..


till then

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[GlorytoGod]

having been through islam I can honestly say

JESUS

is the way the truth and the life

Praise God

[islamis4u]

i wrote so because we are not going anywhere so we should have some result...and see this post:
Guys Good Bye and Allah Hafiz.....

[islamis4u]

when ever ill come back i say it you that ill reply this post first....

[Faithfulservant]

Originally Posted by islamis4u

Your Welcome,

Yeah offcourse i do not know about Buddhism much, so i would not have a DIALOGUE on that, but as i do not know much i just want to like to ask that how it practically teaches about the brotherhood and things i said.


Secondly,


Western culture you talk about i would not have said about it much but as you have pointed about western culture, i ask you simple question, their is no respect for a women!! you will ask how i said that i will answer look brother you would say that they respect because we make them independence okay. what independence of a woman give them??? To be a one who would only as ------ element only for man to use for their needs, you may know what needs they need? i would not point out again, i tell you that, in a report this is not im saying this is from the American agency and it is old report, that in every 32 seconds a woman is raped, this is what we say is respect? no Islam may says that a woman should not work openly, if its neccessry she should be in Hijab or Islamic Shiriah, it give respect a hijab gives respect, and nothing else, i ask you agian from an example if their is two sister both twins okay they are extremely beautiful equally, one is in western clothes like mini skirts, or some thing like that and other is in Islamic Hijab, fully covered in head to bottom tell me if they were walking on the road and in the road side some gang of the people would be standing tell me to whom they will look with bad view bad intentions a sister covered in the Hijab or other in western mini skirts? you know the answer.



I say that this wasn't said so that every non-Muslim is bad or any religion teaches that i know every religion including Islam teaches peace and love and teaches good things, thing is Terrorism is not an monopoly of any religion including non-Islamic religion but the people are wrong, but why this tag is attached with on Islam to Muslims that is the thing.

There are a few things that I would like to DIALOGUE with you about. I am a woman. I do not wear Hijab but I also do NOT wear mini skirts. I have respect for myself and for my body. If any man tried to rape me they would be missing an eyeball or a testical before the rape was over.

Muslim men rape muslim and non-muslim women all the time. They do not all respect women. The culture teaches that you do not have to respect women. Look at these links that support what I say.

Pak muslim girl and her mother was gang raped for 12 days for acquiring education

The New French Revolution , Population Of France Is Almost 10 Percent Muslim - CBS News

Muslim Gang Rapes and the Left Blames Us

Saudi woman who was gang raped gets 200 lashes and jailtime : LibNOT - News, Video, and Conservative Opinion

I feel sick to my stomach so Im not going to post anymore links. There are hundreds of links like these... I also know that muslim women dont usually report these crimes because to do so would certainly be death. So please do not say Islam respects women. You can say that SOME muslims respect women. No one that would circumsize a womans genetalia can be respectful of a woman.

[islamis4u]

Originally Posted by Faithfulservant

There are a few things that I would like to DIALOGUE with you about. I am a woman. I do not wear Hijab but I also do NOT wear mini skirts. I have respect for myself and for my body. If any man tried to rape me they would be missing an eyeball or a testical before the rape was over.

Muslim men rape muslim and non-muslim women all the time. They do not all respect women. The culture teaches that you do not have to respect women. Look at these links that support what I say.

Pak muslim girl and her mother was gang raped for 12 days for acquiring education

The New French Revolution , Population Of France Is Almost 10 Percent Muslim - CBS News

Muslim Gang Rapes and the Left Blames Us

Saudi woman who was gang raped gets 200 lashes and jailtime : LibNOT - News, Video, and Conservative Opinion

I feel sick to my stomach so Im not going to post anymore links. There are hundreds of links like these... I also know that muslim women dont usually report these crimes because to do so would certainly be death. So please do not say Islam respects women. You can say that SOME muslims respect women. No one that would circumsize a womans genetalia can be respectful of a woman.

I have gotten to this point in my post already that we should see the rate rather then see the number at which the people do in a society but rather you go to the numbers and get out 19.2% of the world are Muslims population of the world is : 6,706,993,152 (2008) you can then get the number of Muslims for real attitude of a society we see the % i do not know how many times i have to tell that i repeat myself again n again n same response comes giving me links... I never said all Muslims are pure or without any sins their are black sheeps in every society sister i admit Muslim May do commit rape.. but main thing is the rate okay here is the link

Rape statistics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

if you say mostly Muslim women do not tell or open things like rape but still sister the rape rates in non-Muslim countries are too high... You know what , what make the Muslim to stop doing Rape is their religion, with admitting th fact that some being Muslims do rape but the percentage is very very low... After this post i thing second time im writing ill not repeat the statistics and all the stuff... The first thing you know what is main thing in it too help is that Allah SWT have told both Man and Woman their boundaries ... Im saying both...

[islamis4u]

Originally Posted by Courage

My impression about Islam is that, more or less like Buddhism and other eastern religions, it emphazies the suppression of sin. While I speculate that religions having the tendency of suppressing sins are usually allowed to exist as a religion by God.

While sin suppressing is never the solution of salvation. Only the atonement of sins can be the solution. As a result, only Christianity is the true religion on earth.

I am just curious why laws in society are made?

[wil]

Islam is the solution for humanity, Islam answers all the question or problems this humanity have today Islam is the only religion of the world and true religion of the world Islam is the only religion of the world which not only tells the principles of living on this earth, like brotherhood, kindness to everyone including non-Muslims just to everyone including non-Muslims, the rights of women, Islam also tell us how to implement these golden principle, Islam is the only religion which teaches us practically how you can live achieve this all and Islam is the only religion which has it all from top to bottom every part of life is covered by Islam.

Namaste Islamis4u

You may be correct, Islam is for you. However I don't believe in any way shape or form Islam is the solution for all humanity unless and until Muslims and Islamists aroound the world join the fight against terrorism and oppression and begin defending human rights.

As Fatihful Servant posted above, rape of women as some relgious retribution needs to be condemned and these men tried and punished, not by me or mine but by you and yours.

Islamists must stand up and say that honor killings of a woman that was raped is ludicrous, that the offenders must be punished. That suicide bombings and stonings are not the way of the Muslim, and then maybe some of us will start listening. But this cannot be tho occasional cleric or this group of muslims standing from a podium. It must be on the warfronts, in the courts, on the television everywhere that the kidnappings, beheadings, torture, in Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, wherever it is found will not tolerated and be stopped, and will be stopped by Muslims...

As it stands the silence of Muslims around the world, quietly letting the radicals take control and denigrate the teachings and beliefs will not mean Islam is the solution, but rather the end of Islam will be the solution.

[islamis4u]

Originally Posted by wil

Namaste Islamis4u

You may be correct, Islam is for you. However I don't believe in any way shape or form Islam is the solution for all humanity unless and until Muslims and Islamists aroound the world join the fight against terrorism and oppression and begin defending human rights.

As Fatihful Servant posted above, rape of women as some relgious retribution needs to be condemned and these men tried and punished, not by me or mine but by you and yours.

Islamists must stand up and say that honor killings of a woman that was raped is ludicrous, that the offenders must be punished. That suicide bombings and stonings are not the way of the Muslim, and then maybe some of us will start listening. But this cannot be tho occasional cleric or this group of muslims standing from a podium. It must be on the warfronts, in the courts, on the television everywhere that the kidnappings, beheadings, torture, in Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, wherever it is found will not tolerated and be stopped, and will be stopped by Muslims...

As it stands the silence of Muslims around the world, quietly letting the radicals take control and denigrate the teachings and beliefs will not mean Islam is the solution, but rather the end of Islam will be the solution.

With respect that is very typical response i get always....I will get to it point by point first you should judge a religion with its teaching rather then the followers i know followers are representative of a religion but see the best person and best is Muhammad (P.B.U.H) thats first point with admitting that followers also does matter... Secondly why you see some dark parts of Muslims why not see good parts also...

I also admit that we should not also give any thing to people like you(not pointing out you generally) to raise finger at us... I admit their is some confusion in our society or Muslims about it but you should also know or admit the mistakes of western countries also they oppress so much that one sees no other reason other then to retaliate.... I don't want tell you that who created Taliban and used them i don't want to tell you what happened in Iraq happening in Kashmir in Palestine....

You know we Muslims believe that we are also getting away from our teachings also at the same time we are much better as a society wise... you know you say whats army is, it is a terrorist it self Taliban now are Terrorists and before were your heroes... anyways im not defending bad deeds or sins committed by any1 but we should also look to other side also what have you done to them before you got your win before and left them their with no education whats-so-ever and got away...Why do you not call Indian Army Terrorist secondly you know who created suicide attacks it were Tamil Tigers in Sri-lanka i have a full report of the non-Muslim terrorist other then what the official armies are doing... Palestine and Kashmir etc...(when i will find it i will paste it here) it will be more of political debate rather then Religious but suicide attacks are wrong in Islam and unjust beheading is also haram or say wrong... other point i should also give is if you seen a thread you take two points their are to ends their are two extremes likewise their are two extremists in a society (i personally disagree with it, cuz extremist Muslim is the one who believe in Islamic teachings and will not do any harm to others) like modernized extremist... you should agree to that....

I live in Pakistan and you know what, we say wrong if some Muslim do wrong and we are fighting against them but we should also see that what are your mistakes Guantanamo Bay has done Their is no Human rights their? what is happening in Israel is no human rights their in Kashmir no Human rights their? So you should put that in regards also...

Lastly if a Muslim do anything wrong that does not Mean religion is Wrong so i still stand that Islam is Solution for humanity

[wil]

Namaste Islamis4u,

I one hundred percent agree that it was the USA in supporting the Taliban fighters against the Russian takeover of Afgansitan... and I agree our standard American foriegn policy of 'our enemies enemy is our friend' is not the best policy in the world. So we used them, and when we no longer had a use for them we dropped them like a hot potato...and yes Osama got pissed and created plans against the US.

But when you have whole factions of a religion that have gone awry and they are still supported by the masses there is a problem.

In iour country the KKK claim to be Christian, and despite the fact as you indicate that there are many 'Christians' that are members. They are not acting in a Christian way.

But I do not defend the KKK in any way. What the US does against another country is not a sect or denomination of Christianity acting. It is the US. When the teachings of Islam are used to rally muslims to terrorist acts, when G!d is good is screamed over dead bodies....this is what I am discussing. And when you defend that....this is what I am discussing.

[nativeastral]

yes a proverbial can of worms war is, and historicism shows no government looks good in warfare garb but liberty and freedom incites the masses and its difficult if you are from a country that has experienced [multiple incursions, human fatalities, revolutions,bombing campaigns, state against the people with guns and viceversa etc] a history of raw war personally on your doorstep_ whether from within or without it affects the psyche of generations.

Watching the whole iran/west pre shah to the taliban murdering iranian diplomats in 1998...the stage has been set and each actors/agents have their plot..up to the twin towers 9/11. All parties have their agenda and seek allies that needs trust to build up...double dealing and rigid regimes whether religiously or secularly sanctioned becomes disclosed more or less instantly...enriched uranium...'all options on the table'.

nuclear enrichment still on so for some light relief
YouTube - FRANKIE GOES TO HOLLYWOOD - Two Tribes(1983)


'dialogue of civilization' earlier began with a wrestling competition between US and Iran, which reminded me of frankie's wrestling vid

[islamis4u]

Originally Posted by wil

Namaste Islamis4u,

I one hundred percent agree that it was the USA in supporting the Taliban fighters against the Russian takeover of Afgansitan... and I agree our standard American foriegn policy of 'our enemies enemy is our friend' is not the best policy in the world. So we used them, and when we no longer had a use for them we dropped them like a hot potato...and yes Osama got pissed and created plans against the US.

But when you have whole factions of a religion that have gone awry and they are still supported by the masses there is a problem.

In iour country the KKK claim to be Christian, and despite the fact as you indicate that there are many 'Christians' that are members. They are not acting in a Christian way.

But I do not defend the KKK in any way. What the US does against another country is not a sect or denomination of Christianity acting. It is the US. When the teachings of Islam are used to rally muslims to terrorist acts, when G!d is good is screamed over dead bodies....this is what I am discussing. And when you defend that....this is what I am discussing.

look wil if you read my post i have never Defended the bad deeds of Muslims if they were in Islam.... it is a big sin in Quran to cuts some innocent person even if he or she is a non-Muslim.... i never defended suicide attack on innocent people( it can be though done on the enemy army) It is really bad and that what i said in above post i do not defend them..... but i was telling you to see both sides of the picture... that both are culprits but the one who starts is the bigger culprit.... but both are culprit at the end... Im not defending Osama again say not defending but have a big doubt that 9/11 was done by Muslims...or Osama....

About US brother you know who controls US more Jewish lobby controls US and Judaism is a religion and Jews may not come out like that but main politics controlled in US is by jewish people....

Brother you donot read my whole post as it said that Islam is not in any way the cause but some Muslims are getting away from the teachings of Islam and i know some are doing wrong but they are not Major... if they would be major then worlds biggest religion Islam would be under them.. and their is a still as i said in above post war going against them and our Religious scholars are backing them... So it isn't what you think...Im in Pakistan so i know that... Other thing like You yourself said US policy were bad then should i say i should i say i should not go to US because does not have good policy? i have to see their people rather then the US policy so in religion you see its teachings real teachings rather then some astray Muslims who got astray by the oppression against them by Some country controlled by Jewish Lobby and again say im not defending the bad deeds sin is sin who ever does it Muslim or non-Muslim so you see all sides of the picture and true Islamic Teachings never say to cut any1 innocent

[bananabrain]

Originally Posted by islamis4u

About US brother you know who controls US more Jewish lobby controls US and Judaism is a religion and Jews may not come out like that but main politics controlled in US is by jewish people....

yes, and we're also shape-changing lizards from outer space. islamis4u, if we were half as powerful as you think we are i would have cameras in your house already. honestly, mate, all this is is a way of avoiding responsibility by blaming someone else. "it's the jews' fault!" is the oldest moan in the book and it's about as true as "we're all controlled by aliens from mars". i don't know what they're teaching you at this university of yours, possibly the conspiracy theories of david icke: David Icke Website - Home but clearly you have a lot to learn about the world outside islamabad.

sheesh.

b'shalom

bananabrain

b'shalom

[17th Angel]

I think there is more 'weight' in Jewish Influence/power in the states (Israel's "support" could be used I guess...) Then shapeshifters and aliens from Mars......

[bananabrain]

sure, jews are influential and powerful in the states. nobody's disputing that. but "jewish control"? it's a bit different. nobody goes on about "arab control" but i think oil has a larger voice than "israeli security considerations" do.

i'll pass over the extraordinarily rude health of the far right and neo-nazi movements in the US, too.

b'shalom

bananabrain