Stages of Faith

[Snoopy]

Reading again about Kohlberg on another thread, put me in mind of James Fowler's stages of faith. I can't see that it's been discussed on CR, so I thought I'd offer up this link as it seems to offer an interesting baseline for faith development.

http://faculty.plts.edu/gpence/html/fowler.htm

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[Snoopy]

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[InLove]

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[Snoopy]

R U stalking me?

[InLove]

R U stalking me?

You invited me. But I'm not doing a very good job, for reasons which have already been discussed!

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by InLove

You invited me. But I'm not doing a very good job, for reasons which have already been discussed!

Hi,

Did I? Have we? Can I have a re-cap?

s.

[InLove]

Did I? Have we? Can I have a re-cap?

Of course! Rush-and-tango? Coffee?

Remember?

You know, this Kohlberg/Fowler comparison is fascinating!

InPeace,
InLove

[juantoo3]

Kindest Regards, Snoopy!

After 3 years of Abraham Maslow, I'm a bit burned out on "stages" of anything. I seem to recall having looked into Kohlberg out of curiousity, and was disappointed. Even in his own research I seem to recall a frustration that things did not develop quite as forecast. Perhaps the biggest disappointment was that none of his subjects who reached the highest level (6? or was it 7?) were able to maintain that level consistently. I seem to also recall some difficulty with one of the intermittant levels, that some researchers split and made contingent, and others did not. At any rate, I think Kohlberg points up some good developmental psych points, and little else.

As for Fowler, I see an attempt to use the Maslow / Kohlberg model to develop a structure, perhaps with merit and basis, depending on culture. I don't see a great deal of original thinking, simply a new way of compartmentalizing. William James is some interesting reading regarding the development of religion.

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by InLove

Of course! Rush-and-tango? Coffee?

Remember?


InPeace,
InLove

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s.

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by juantoo3

Kindest Regards, Snoopy!

After 3 years of Abraham Maslow, I'm a bit burned out on "stages" of anything. I seem to recall having looked into Kohlberg out of curiousity, and was disappointed. Even in his own research I seem to recall a frustration that things did not develop quite as forecast. Perhaps the biggest disappointment was that none of his subjects who reached the highest level (6? or was it 7?) were able to maintain that level consistently. I seem to also recall some difficulty with one of the intermittant levels, that some researchers split and made contingent, and others did not. At any rate, I think Kohlberg points up some good developmental psych points, and little else.

As for Fowler, I see an attempt to use the Maslow / Kohlberg model to develop a structure, perhaps with merit and basis, depending on culture. I don't see a great deal of original thinking, simply a new way of compartmentalizing. William James is some interesting reading regarding the development of religion.

Hi,

Yes I agree, a bit simplistic and maybe "last year's thing." (or whenever)

s.

[Paladin]

My wife still uses Kohlberg's model quite a bit as she deals with a middle school full of kids. As for Fowler and Maslow I think any model we can make will have some flaws, the important thing is what you do with that information. If for a moment we can see that the person we are dealing with may well be acting out of a "program" so to speak it might help interject a little compassion into our interaction. After all, no matter how mad you get, a rock is a rock and a tree is still a tree

Peace
Mark