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06-16-2012, 07:23 AM
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Suicide is best thing to do...Buddha
Those who think suicide is bad and sin are wrong. Buddha himself was a great follower of suicide and the whole teachings and techniques given by him is to suicide.
Another indian master Gorakh said " Dio O! Yogi die. Die as much as and become drop. then see the ocean, become the ocean".
Ruining the body is not death. It is sin. It is riuning you temple. If you dare then kill you mind, drop ego, ruin wishes. Let your body dance on the music of your heart.
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06-16-2012, 10:09 AM
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Re: Suicide is best thing to do...Buddha
No; the Buddha was not.
You make an assertion, the onus is on you to provide support for it.
I claim the clouds are made of marshmallow.
See how it works?
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06-16-2012, 10:50 AM
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Re: Suicide is best thing to do...Buddha
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Originally Posted by brijesh
Those who think suicide is bad and sin are wrong. Buddha himself was a great follower of suicide and the whole teachings and techniques given by him is to suicide.
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I haven't seen this in any of the suttas. Unless you site relevant suttas, I will treat this as a total fabrication.
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Ruining the body is not death. It is sin. It is riuning you temple.
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The first lines from Buddha's first discourse after his enlightenment: "Monks, these two extremes ought not to be practiced by one who has gone forth from the household life. (What are the two?) There is addiction to indulgence of sense-pleasures, which is low, coarse, the way of ordinary people, unworthy, and unprofitable; and there is addiction to self-mortification, which is painful, unworthy, and unprofitable.
"Avoiding both these extremes, the Tathagata (The Perfect One) has realized the Middle Path; it gives vision, gives knowledge, and leads to calm, to insight, to enlightenment and to Nibbana. And what is that Middle Path realized by the Tathagata...? It is the Noble Eightfold path, and nothing else, namely: right understanding, right thought, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness and right concentration. This is the Middle Path realized by the Tathagata which gives vision, which gives knowledge, and leads to calm, to insight, to enlightenment, and to Nibbana.
"The Noble Truth of Suffering (dukkha), monks, is this: Birth is suffering, aging is suffering, sickness is suffering, death is suffering, association with the unpleasant is suffering, dissociation from the pleasant is suffering, not to receive what one desires is suffering — in brief the five aggregates subject to grasping are suffering.
"The Noble Truth of the Origin (cause) of Suffering is this: It is this craving (thirst) which produces re-becoming (rebirth) accompanied by passionate greed, and finding fresh delight now here, and now there, namely craving for sense pleasure, craving for existence and craving for non-existence (self-annihilation).
"The Noble Truth of the Cessation of Suffering is this: It is the complete cessation of that very craving, giving it up, relinquishing it, liberating oneself from it, and detaching oneself from it.
"The Noble Truth of the Path Leading to the Cessation of Suffering is this: It is the Noble Eightfold Path, and nothing else, namely: right understanding, right thought, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness and right concentration.
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Buddha taught the cessation of dukkha, which was accomplished via following the Noble Eightfold Path, not through suicide.
Ruining your body is called the extreme of self-mortification, and it is to be avoided as being unprofitable and unworthy.
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06-18-2012, 04:22 PM
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Re: Suicide is best thing to do...Buddha
If it is to be found anywhere, I'd believe it to be allegory, metaphor.
Buddha at enlightenment was no longer Sid... Sid died as a new understanding emerged.
Paul said "I die daily" Dying to the old thoughts and old ways and being born anew.
An acorn must die to become and oak tree. Amazing how slow I am and how long it took me to get that. To me if the seed died, it could not become the tree..but reality is, in order to become the tree, it can no longer be the seed.
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06-18-2012, 05:27 PM
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Re: Suicide is best thing to do...Buddha
Buddha spoke of the panca-maha-dana -- five great gifts:
not killing
not stealing
not having "wrong sex"
not lying
not using intoxicants which confuse or weaken the mind.
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Suicide, in buddhism, is not a "sin", as such, but that does not mean suicide should be encouraged, either. Ultimately, it is an individual's choice.
Lots of people commit suicide. Generally, people commit suicide because they are unhappy and they feel there is no other way to end their suffering.
Following the arya-asta-marga (superior eightfold path) is a way to end suffering.
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