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05-24-2009, 02:52 PM
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Teenage Kicks
This short film made in a style of a phone capture is designed to get a message across to teenage kids. Is it right? Effective? Tasteful?
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05-24-2009, 03:43 PM
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Re: Teenage Kicks
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Originally Posted by Tao_Equus
This short film made in a style of a phone capture is designed to get a message across to teenage kids. Is it right? Effective? Tasteful?
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Well it's certainly not tasteful.
It's about as right as a shovel across the bottom.
As for effective, nothings worked yet, so I don't expect this to work now.
Humans are the only animal (that I know of) expected to delay sex for years after becoming sexually mature. This problem will never go away as long as we try to stem the tide of this incredibly powerful natural force through social pressure.
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05-24-2009, 03:54 PM
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I dont think that will work. Our sexual desires are always something that will require control over, if not theres always jerry springer.
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05-24-2009, 04:05 PM
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Re: Teenage Kicks
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This problem will never go away as long as we try to stem the tide of this incredibly powerful natural force through social pressure.
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Interesting comment about the locus of causation. It is quite possible that social pressures lead to sexual experimentation that persons would otherwise not have been particularly interested in.
Adolescents emulate adult behavior, which is modeled in the media. The awkwardness of gender relations and the risks associated with sexual experimentation may ordinarily be a source of negaction that is overcome principally as a result of susceptibility to peer pressure. In other words, hormones may not explain much about adolescent sex.
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05-24-2009, 04:31 PM
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Adolescents emulate adult behavior, which is modeled in the media.
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Teenage sex long predated modern media.
From LiveScience...
Sexuality has a lot to do with our biological framework, agreed Joann Rodgers, director of media relations and lecturer at Johns Hopkins Medical Institutions.
"People and indeed all animals are hard wired to seek out sex and to continue to do so," Rodgers said in a recent interview. "I imagine that is evidence that people at least like sex and even if they don't they engage in it as a biological imperative."
It is nearly impossible to tell, however, whether people enjoyed sex more 50 years ago or 50,000 years ago, said David Buss, professor of psychology at the University of Texas and author of "The Evolution of Desire: Strategies of Human Mating" (Basic Books, 2003).
There is "no reason to think that we do more now than in the past, although we are certainly more frank about it," Buss told LiveScience.
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05-24-2009, 04:57 PM
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Re: Teenage Kicks
Our children are becoming sexually mature at a younger age than has historically been the case. If that's not a practical sign that highlights the need to change how we educate children about sex, I don't know what is.
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05-24-2009, 06:32 PM
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Re: Teenage Kicks
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Our children are becoming sexually mature at a younger age than has historically been the case.
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How much is due to BGH in the beef and residual pharmaceutical hormones in the public water supply, I wonder?
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05-24-2009, 08:54 PM
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How much is due to BGH in the beef and residual pharmaceutical hormones in the public water supply, I wonder?
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Romeo & Juliet
Prologue [updated for the 21st century]
Two households, both alike in dignity,
In fair Verona, where we lay our scene,
From ancient grudge break to new mutiny,
Where civil blood makes civil hands unclean.
From forth the fatal loins of these two foes
A pair of BGH'd lovers take their life;
Whole misadventured piteous overthrows
Do with their death bury their parents' strife.
The fearful passage of their pharmaceutic hormonal love,
And the continuance of their parents' rage,
Which, but their children's end, nought could remove,
Is now the two hours' traffic of our stage;
The which if you with patient ears attend,
What here shall miss, our toil shall strive to mend.
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05-24-2009, 09:38 PM
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Re: Teenage Kicks
We used to be married at 13-15...we now added adolescence to the scene and wonder why it doesn't work.
When women were child bearing age, they started bearing children.
Back when we didn't have doors in our huts and insulated walls and in areas which still doesn't sex occurs in view or earshot of the children. Our media is not educating us any earlier than in the past.
As for us becoming sexually mature...in the early '70s there was a Mother Earth News magazine that reported with the high levels of hormones in chickens to create large breasts and the dramatic increase in chicken eating over beef we'd see women getting mature earlier. It already has happened.
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05-25-2009, 03:13 AM
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Re: Teenage Kicks
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From LiveScience...
There is "no reason to think that we do more now than in the past, although we are certainly more frank about it," Buss told LiveScience.
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Actually, one might expect less given greater awareness of risks.
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Teenage sex long predated modern media.
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Thanks for the article. I noticed it has nothing to say about teenage sex or the effects of the media. For your interest: Results. Multivariate regression analysis indicated that adolescents who viewed more sexual content at baseline were more likely to initiate intercourse and progress to more advanced noncoital sexual activities during the subsequent year, controlling for respondent characteristics that might otherwise explain these relationships. The size of the adjusted intercourse effect was such that youths in the 90th percentile of TV sex viewing had a predicted probability of intercourse initiation that was approximately double that of youths in the 10th percentile, for all ages studied.
Exposure to TV that included only talk about sex was associated with the same risks as exposure to TV that depicted sexual behavior. African American youths who watched more depictions of sexual risks or safety were less likely to initiate intercourse in the subsequent year.
Watching Sex on Television Predicts Adolescent Initiation of Sexual Behavior -- Collins et al. 114 (3): e280 -- Pediatrics
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05-25-2009, 06:47 AM
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Re: Teenage Kicks
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I noticed it has nothing to say about teenage sex or the effects of the media.
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My point was that although we'd like to blame this issue on modern causes it's roots trace back to our very beginning.
Or in other words, what water-born pharmaceutical hormones caused Romeo and Juliet to fall deeply and romantically in love as teenagers? (and yes, I know they are fictional characters) Perhaps it was all of the sexting, internet porn, explicit music, video games or R-rated movies they were exposed to.
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05-25-2009, 12:13 PM
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Re: Teenage Kicks
Rather than try for shock tactics, it may make sense to try and cover the issues of personal fertility and contraception in a more realistic and accessible way in sex education in the first place.
I always remember lessons being very formal and - scientific. There never felt like there was any personal emphasis on key points, and that the whole education process tried to keep the subjects of sexual maturity and sexual activity as abstract as possible.
"The man puts his penis in the woman's vagina and ejaculates sperm, which then swim up the fallopian tubes and try to fertilise an egg".
That's not a description of sex I think is very accessible by comparison to the reality of the process.
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