The Arc of the Covenant

[Marietta]

Hello bgruagach, I am guessing that the brest plate and rob worn along with the oil put on the body of the high priest were all forms of protection against the radiation. The wood was protection from the electrical current flowing throught the box.

Love and Light, Marietta

[alexa]

I don't believe in radiation theory either. Where did this theory of radiation come from anyway ?

[juantoo3]

Alexa!!! What a pleasant surprize to see you back!!!

Originally Posted by alexa

I don't believe in radiation theory either. Where did this theory of radiation come from anyway ?

[alexa]

Hello Juan ! It's good to be back. Everything all right in Florida ?

[juantoo3]

Originally Posted by alexa

Hello Juan ! It's good to be back. Everything all right in Florida ?

Yes, as well as can be hoped for. A busy hurricane season turned into a dud, (which is a very good thing for us). And I was recently married to a lovely woman from China. So life is wonderful for me at the moment.

How is everything for you in Canada? I imagine it's getting a little chilly about now.

[bananabrain]

i've never heard so much arse in all my born days. the hebrew word for "ark" does not even contain a K or a C or a Q or anything such. the word is "ARON" - which means a "cupboard" or "chest"; there may be other meanings which i haven't loooked up, but basically this whole line of argument is complete nonsense.

b'shalom

bananabrain

[flowperson]

BB:

While you are the mod and are entitled to your opinion as to what is nonsense and what is not, some of us are simply open to exploring new information and sharing possible answers. That's what forums are for if I'm not mistaken.

Now, while I am not steeped in the Judaic heritage to any great extent, I do consider myself a believer, even though I have a fairly strong background in science and technology. This whole thing of the "chest" covered in gold and constructed according to detailed instructions, secret communications between the high priest and G-d using light emanations from the "chest" in the holy of holies is IMO matters that are ripe for questioning and answering. That's all that is going on here...and moderator or not, I do not believe that it is nonsense to engage in such discussions. And if others are willing to, I plan to participate.

Thank you for your opinion and concern.

flow....

[Dor]

Originally Posted by bananabrain

i've never heard so much arse in all my born days. the hebrew word for "ark" does not even contain a K or a C or a Q or anything such. the word is "ARON" - which means a "cupboard" or "chest"; there may be other meanings which i haven't loooked up, but basically this whole line of argument is complete nonsense.

b'shalom

bananabrain

claps

[Thomas]

The ark acted like an inter-dimensional radio receiver/transmitter

Why is the New Ager so obsessed with technology? receivers, transmitters, radiation? It is also stated in Oral Tradition that the porters of the Ark would fly through the air - so perhaps it was driven by some kind of nuclear impulse engine - a helicopter seems rather mundane?

I'm sorry Marietta, but again - why the emphasis on technology, on the material - why the emphasis on machines? Have your sources no sense of symbolism? No sense of metaphysics?

Thomas
(ps - when the High Priest entered the Holy of Holies he was naked.)

[flowperson]

Gee Dor...only six smiling claps ? Why not four, or maybe even seven ?

Thomas...why are you so threatened by interpreting ancient stories in the light of what has been discovered in the interim about the universe that we really live in ? Also, I believe that, at least in my case, a "new age" label does not describe who or what I am. I am only an explorer trying to understand the place where I live and attempt to "be". I can only do that by interpreting old stories in the light of modern knowledge. And, after all, this is the alternative forum...hmmmm ? IMO, this is a perfect example of why "labelling" someone, or a group of individuals according to what they believe is such a corrosive thing in society.

I did like your ps re: the priest being naked. Clothing would carry all sorts of organic contaminants. If quantum portals were being manipulated through the use of the gold covered "chest" in the holy of holies great precautions had to be taken not to accidentally cross-contaminate the local and non-local portals. This wasn't the movies like Stargate...this was assumedly the "real Thing".



flow....

[Thomas]

It's not threat, Flow, its incredulity.

The command 'be still and know that I am God' has a direct relevance here, first in the sense that meditation upon Scripture should be a means of entering a dialogue with its Divine Author in stillness, in contemplative prayer or lectio divina; the second is that all this 'stuff' is the product of much human activity, much running hither and thither to borrow from this source and that – and the multiplicity of sources is evidence itself of a latter-day Tower of Babel – which at the end of the day adds nothing of any use or value to the text itself.

Scripture is its own philosophy, its own etymology and its own hermeneutic – it requires nothing external or ancilliary for its full and proper understanding – quite the reverse, in fact.

Put simply, why, if man is man, and God is God, would either have to resort to anything as soulless and mundane as a machine?

Thomas

[flowperson]

Thomas:

I wholly ageee that, as you say, "G-d is G-d", but I would argue that scripture and meditation is but one avenue through which we might experience this "presence". I have had many experiences outside of stilless and this mode of contemplation that have convinced me that this is so.

I'll repeat a story that I've related elsewhere here to answer your closing comment. In the early 90's I participated in a seminar series over a few years that included prominent theologians and scientists who met over dinner and formal presentations for the purposes of examining where we've been, the current state of the world, and based upon all that what we might reasonably expect to transpire in the future.

A young woman participated in the proceedings as an intern for a part of that time, and a couple of years ago I was surprised when I opened my New York Times to discover an article based upon an interview with her. She had landed on staff at the Massachusettes Institute of Technology and her function was to consult with scientists and engineers who had moral and ethical questions and issues regarding the innovations that they were bringing into the light.

I don't remember much of what the article said except for her final observation to the effect that there was something profoundly wrong with a society that encouraged and pushed humans to behave and function more and more like robots in their everyday lives... and, all the while robotic devices and systems were being created and implemented through human activities to function in ways that surpassed the functional abilities of human beings.

Let's say that you survive the next 100 years and are invited, as a revered and prominent traditional scholar of religion, to referee and judge the annual Turing Tests. What would you do when confronted with a fully fleshed out humanoid creation that confounded your abilities to discern any difference from other human beings that you have known, in its behavior patterns and intellectual feedback? Do you believe that you could tell the difference between analog, such as you, and digital such as it ?

Parts of analog beings already operate and are genomically constructed in digital ways at their foundations as opposed to analog. Such parts, when examined in detail at their functional roots, fully exhibit the attributes of digital devices, and yet they are capable of efficientlly functioning as part of an analog whole, the human body. If you study the physiology and functional chacteristics of the human eye you will find all of this to be true.

One of your countrymen's final cinematic efforts at the close of his career examined his take on all this. Stanley Kubrick's, AI Artificial Intelligence, is a profound statement regarding this arising dilemma. I believe that you'll find it to be very informative and enlightening.

IMO, we are only just beginning the prophesied conflicts between the two and the three, and the three and the two.

peace....flow....

[Dondi]

critical mass level of Opposite Expression of Free Will

When HetharO, with its attendant replenishing of the Christos Seed Atom, occurs as the result of the natural expenditure of this Atom's original energy thrust, beings carrying the core Christos imprint would have had time to activate their core template to a Base 12.

Those who take the anti-Christos path of separation have chosen this over many lifetimes. All will be drawn to the time-space locations which feel most in tune with their core vibration. KS defines love as a state of vibrational harmonization; that which we love is, in a very real sense, what is in tune with our own core vibration. Beings who are more in tune with energies such as competition, power struggles, the victim/ victimizer drama, or other expressions of a separative, anti-Christos mindset, will be just as relieved when the Shield finally separate as beings who are fundamentally in tune with the Law of ONE.

You know, all that is needed to invent a New Age religion is to meld pseudo-scientific terms with moral and religious dogma. "Critical mass level of Opposite Expression of Freewill"?

You've succeeded in taking God right out of the equation. Science is now your God. We don't need to be accountable to God, just the laws of physics.

[flowperson]

Dondi:

In the way that I view it all, G-d is, among other things, the "laws of Physics" at least in the local sense, if not the non-local. It all depends upon how one views and evaluates it all IMO. Accusing others of substituting science for G-d is not a valid observation by my way of thinking. Perhaps
G-d is simply allowing us to see and understand more sacred knowledge as our time progresses so that we my truly become "created co-creators" which seems to be the overall plan here IMO.

flow....

[Thomas]

Hi Flow -

Common to all spiritual traditions is the idea of ascesis - denial of, to a greater or lesser degree, self and the world. Such terms as 'detachment', 'humility', 'virtue' ... etc., I'm sure you can see where I'm heading with this ... in short I think we can agree that all spiritual masters display a remarkable degree of mastery of self, arrived at through a long and arduous practice of self discipline.

Therefore I doubt a time will ever come when one such master ascends the spiritual heights, only to find a deity shaking his head and holding up a mobile, "why didn't you just ring?"

It's not the technology I have a problem with, it's the discreet idea that technology offers solutions to the essential problem by enabling us to bypass the necessary effort - and that, I would say, is a prevalent facet of the New Age - the desire for instant karma.

Take the 'god-spot' as mentioned elsewhere. Scientists isolate the 'god-spot' because, say, the brain does 'X' when man is in communion with God ... therefore, if we can stimulate 'X', we can open a comms channel with the Divine ... it just doesn't work that way ... in so doing we reduce the Divine to mechanics ...

Thomas