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Old 10-27-2011, 09:36 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Re: The Christian Cross - True Origin

I think the true origins of the Cross symbol goes further back than written records discussed. For example, there was a Celtic Cross with a solar circle in the centre hundreds of years before Christianity. There are cross like figures in Egyptian temples and inscriptions.

I think Jesus followers adopted the cross not long after the time of Jesus' actual life. The Naked Archaeologist found a cross in ruins of some ancient city of the "Jesus era" but I can not recall the name of the town. He believes it was a meeting place of Jesus followers in the century or two before Jesus was deified.

There were crosses in the catacombs of Rome that apparently predate the Christian Era and are believed to be Zoroastrian Mithraic.

Swastika's which are an ancient artistic rendition of the cross goes back an additional millennium in India.

Symbols used in more recent religion often are from older religions who borrowed them from even older religions.

Constantine saw a bright light in the sky with four bands of light going up, down, left, and right. It formed a Cross with a circle of the sun in the middle just as in Celtic Religion and Mithraism. It may have also been a symbol of the Cult of Sol Invictus in which Constantine was raised and held most of his life.

In short, the cross in some form or another is a popular religious symbol. Today in Ireland and parts of Scotland one can see grave markers with the Celtic Cross that just has the circle but no human body. Most have the symbolic body of Christ but also included in the Solar Ring at the centre of the cross. Some excavations north of Carrighfergus show a variation of cross with the Solar Circle being open but the rays of the sun extending left, right, up, and down only from the edge of the Circle.

It is interesting. I have often walked through grave yards in various places of the British Isles, especially the older ones no longer in active use.

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There are crosses on cave walls from prehistoric man, there are Solar crosses from the Neolithic era, crosses all through history from all over, it is hardly the invention of the Abrahamic faiths.
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There are crosses on cave walls from prehistoric man, there are Solar crosses from the Neolithic era, crosses all through history from all over, it is hardly the invention of the Abrahamic faiths.
Neolithic is about 9500BC, and thus, taking it out of Its Roman Era Context, Christianity is a Roman Religion, all the symbols i have shown, including Star of David, are Roman Symbols.
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Remember, Caesar reformed the Calender and invented December 25th, birthday of Sol - Christmas Day
dec. 25 is the day of new sun (christ )risen christ or the birth ,dec. 23 is the crucified or dead sun
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Neolithic is about 9500BC, and thus, taking it out of Its Roman Era Context, Christianity is a Roman Religion, all the symbols i have shown, including Star of David, are Roman Symbols.
What does that mean?
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What does that mean?
It means, Christian is a ROMAN Religion, the symbols i have shown are in a ROMAN Context

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dec. 25 is the day of new sun (christ )risen christ or the birth ,dec. 23 is the crucified or dead sun
C.Julius Caesar CREATED December 25th

Yule-Tide [YULEius Caesar], the Decoration of a Christmas TREE, is derived from the Roman Practise of Decoration WOOD(in Cross Form) [Called TROpauems][TREes] in honor of JULIUS CAESAR, A Christ is an [Effigy of Caesar] Christmas = Mass of Caesar



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Divos christianity was not Romans only . You forget egyptian greece . . .
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Divos christianity was not Romans only . You forget egyptian greece . . .
And Whom Ruled Egypt-Greece-Israel(Judea) during the Creation of Christianity


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It means, Christian is a ROMAN Religion, the symbols i have shown are in a ROMAN Context



C.Julius Caesar CREATED December 25th

Yule-Tide [YULEius Caesar], the Decoration of a Christmas TREE, is derived from the Roman Practise of Decoration WOOD(in Cross Form) [Called TROpauems][TREes] in honor of JULIUS CAESAR, A Christ is an [Effigy of Caesar] Christmas = Mass of Caesar



No . . . Christianity is a Judaic sect, the Romans, Constantine and the Council of Nicea were key to propagating it. If you are seeing anything Caesarian it is of Pagan nature from which the Council would have borrowed upon in order to initiate further pagans into the new cult.

**and cool out with the coin crap will ya, at least make 'em smaller . . .
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No . . . Christianity is a Judaic sect, the Romans, Constantine and the Council of Nicea were key to propagating it. If you are seeing anything Caesarian it is of Pagan nature from which the Council would have borrowed upon in order to initiate further pagans into the new cult.

**and cool out with the coin crap will ya, at least make 'em smaller . . .
This Caesarian Religion, is in fact more Monotheistic then Pagan then you realize yet again you ignore that Judea is part of the Roman Empire.

Remember, Constantine is a Flavian
Flavius Valerius Aurelius Constantinus Augustus
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Why Romans took their religious belief from Egyptian Divos ?
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Why Romans took their religious belief from Egyptian Divos ?
The Roman where very Tolerant when it came to Religion, in fact , Julius Caesar Permitted the JEWS, to practice there Religion, which Led to the Construction of Herod's Temple[Suetonius] and the Pax Romana [Until Josephus Destroyed it all]

Emperor Hadrian built the Pantheon, temple to ALL Gods[Actually Seven Gods], and everything merged and Mutated.


I also Found THIS Vase, dated to 550BC, showing Zeus killing Typhon



Zeus is pronounced [Iota-Epsilon-Upsilon-Sigma]

Which is IEUS, adn when you transliterate this into Hebrew, IE = Yah, U = W and S =Ah
and the roman god IOVE, IO = Yah, V = W, and E - Eh

It becomes Yahweh

ZEUS - IEUS - IOVE - YHWH [4 Letters] [ One and Same]




Zeus/Ieus are believed to have derived from Phoenicia, and that the Above, is the Phoenician spelling of Zeus, and that the spelling of Yahweh in the Dead sea Scrolls is the same spelling of Zeus

Jesus
IESOUS [IEUS]
IESUS
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Nonsense, the first monotheistic religion sprang from the Egyptian pharaoh Akhentaten, who implemented the worship of the Aten and no other gods. This can be seen of which later monotheistic religious thought sprang from. Trust me, the Christian belief system was in the works way before all your Caesarian ideology.
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The Roman where very Tolerant when it came to Religion, in fact , Julius Caesar Permitted the JEWS, to practice there Religion, which Led to the Construction of Herod's Temple[Suetonius] and the Pax Romana [Until Josephus Destroyed it all]

Emperor Hadrian built the Pantheon, temple to ALL Gods[Actually Seven Gods], and everything merged and Mutated.


I also Found THIS Vase, dated to 550BC, showing Zeus killing Typhon



Zeus is pronounced [Iota-Epsilon-Upsilon-Sigma]

Which is IEUS, adn when you transliterate this into Hebrew, IE = Yah, U = W and S =Ah
and the roman god IOVE, IO = Yah, V = W, and E - Eh

It becomes Yahweh

ZEUS - IEUS - IOVE - YHWH [4 Letters] [ One and Same]




Zeus/Ieus are believed to have derived from Phoenicia, and that the Above, is the Phoenician spelling of Zeus, and that the spelling of Yahweh in the Dead sea Scrolls is the same spelling of Zeus

Jesus
IESOUS [IEUS]
IESUS
Again, the usage of vowels and consonants are from ancient Egyptian religion, the language entailed consonants and the vowels were considered the Hy (vibrations) of the Gods.
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Nonsense, the first monotheistic religion sprang from the Egyptian pharaoh Akhentaten, who implemented the worship of the Aten and no other gods. This can be seen of which later monotheistic religious thought sprang from. Trust me, the Christian belief system was in the works way before all your Caesarian ideology.
Yes

Aten which Does transliterate as the Semitic "Adonay" and the Greek "Adonis", and for the same
reason "Zeus = Iove = Yhwh = Ieus".

In fact, Poseidon derived from Posei-Deion which means Lord God [Posei-Aten]
Neptune [Neb-Aten] means Lord God in Egyptian, also?

Garden of Edan[ATEN]
Atlanis [ATEN]

Zeus = Yahweh
Poseidon = Aten/Adonay

Zeus was angered by their impiety and sent a Great Deluge to the envelop the earth and destroy them. Only Deukalion and Pyrrha survived[By Building an ARK] [Prometheus advised Deucalion to fashion an ark]

Majority of Torah Stories are found in Greece, but the Names, and Place Names are different
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