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Old 07-23-2006, 10:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The devils paradox - why we exist?

The devils paradox

firstly please note that all terms are used in specific context and only serve to form an explanation in a manner most will understand.

Why is there not a whole? what is the state; 'the whole'? i.e. A single entity that is entirely and absolutely one and whole? I cannot work out what the 'demon-seed' is - what stops the universe from simply being one entity.

Its basic division blocks...

'god' is a separate entity because of realities 'prime directive' i.e. The primal dualistic schism – or that which causes it. Here i am defining god as the being of the oneness that should be yet is not, so as a metaphor the devil can be seen as the dividing factor that even separates god from wholeness, and us etc! he is the very essence of the duality that fractionalises our minds and thoughts leading us to parody, yet the truth is beyond words and meanings, and beyond the senses and perceptions, yet is their base as it is the base of faith - in it's essence. Thus the devils paradox draws a dividing line throughout existence which is ultimatly futile.

Perhaps if we try to define what a whole entity would be like, then we would know why it cannot exist. we would see that the universe and all devision exists simply because the whole cannot! Which in turn begs the question; does this mean that the entirety of existence is the result of a philosophical paradox? If so then why the hell is philosophical meaning so important that everything goes by it – even down to the very fabric of reality.

Can the whole exist after things? Like when the universe comes to an end. Is this a real nirvana? Does it already exist, i mean, if at the end of things this oneness exists and that is all there is, then this 'nirvana state' is omni-existent and thus is here with us now yet separated in time [and because of time].
Gods great purpose.
There are many twists in time & causality etc says that one cannot predict what will happen, yet perhaps history is streaming chaos with a line of singular intent, that the conclusion distates what must occur leading up to it. What has to happen will happen, irrespective of the intricacies [causality etc], as these are only relative to the present, yet in the passing of time everything is solidified into the necessary histories that converge into a greater single history of all things.

Does god die? Well if 'god' is the being of the whole within the context of existence, as we are beings in the context of a particular existence, then when existence ends, this 'god' as we do, dies! So nirvana is the state of a dead god and all of us shall become part of it! Pretty gothic eh!

long live the eternal pheonix and its master the true but actually living god
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Re: The devils paradox - why we exist?

To me, the Divine is simply beyond human comprehension, and issues such as duality with reference to a "devil" or other opposed are rooted in cultural and personal perceptions of the Divine.

In other words, we break up the whole into smaller concepts, so that these smaller concepts are easier to try and understand.

So, God doesn't die - the statement itself makes no sense. To limit God is to limit ourselves, and project our own limitations on the limitless.

Much as I'd love to discuss gothic concepts, I personally don't see the sense in what you're suggesting?
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Re: The devils paradox - why we exist?

The whole thing was written to highlight the philosophical principles involved i.e. the 'god' aspects are just elements of the equation! We may look at this as like a string i.e. the 'it' that is attached to, and is every aspect of existence, then think of everything that divides that string, from infinite sets and space foam to holistic segmentations! - this is like a crack through perfect diamond of wholeness [so to say], which emanates from the principle;


'an absolute whole cannot exist until everything that can exist has'.


The god dying idea is to show that everything relevant to the equation must end! Thus our ideas of the divine can be collected into two categories; one where we have a god of the world or a god with aspects relevant to this world, our individual and cultural worldview. The second is a god that has nothing to do with reality as we know it – in essence. The latter would suggest why the divine is not defineable.


I am essentially looking at the schism that seams to pervade everything in some way, this is why the term 'devil' is used – not as a scary deity but to reflect the duality that tears oneness apart, which is ultimately futile. Then i am asking; can there be wholeness – ever? it makes sense to me that wholeness is the ultimate nature of existence, and in the end the only nature of existence, moreover this oneness being omni-existent is with us now!

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