The final answer: I don't know. - Page 3

greymare · 06-06-2008, 10:51 AM

nope. and I dont want to. I just dont like to see you kids fight

Tao_Equus · 06-06-2008, 10:52 AM

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lol I am not locking horns.... I know from text you cannot read another, I am perfectly cool and calm as usual... Just trying to show that to find meaning in the meaningless renders meaningless meaningful... ya dig.

Ahhh But Mr Angel, "What good is wisdom when it brings no profit to the wise" ?

PS, where does the bridge go to?

greymare · 06-06-2008, 10:54 AM

ooohhh I didnt see the "end". ha, I never do................lol

17th Angel · 06-06-2008, 10:57 AM

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Ahhh But Mr Angel, "What good is wisdom when it brings no profit to the wise" ?

Does there have to be profit? Wisdom is a state of happiness and stillness in ones mind, that is more than enough. I don't feel wisdom is always intended for the wise either....

No idea where the bridge goes too... How about a bigger picture?

mee · 06-06-2008, 10:58 AM

[quote=Bishadi;149254]How many areas of teachings or lessons in 'faith' all have to lead to one answer, "I don't know'?

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that would depend on if a person was after accurate knowledge ,or just knowledge based on mens thoughts.

there are many teachings out there that are just mens thoughts but there is a way to know just what God requires of us .

and there is a way to gain EVERLASTING LIFE

and the way to know God and his purpose for the earth is to listen to the words of Jesus, and here is what Jesus said to do .

This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ. john 17;3

and its all in the bible . the true God is JEHOVAH psalm 83;18

and the one he sent forth is Jesus christ .

and as the bible tells us in luke 9;35 we have to listen to Jesus .

And a voice came out of the cloud, saying: "This is my Son, the one that has been chosen. Listen to him." luke 9;35

so knowing is what it is all about . and it is very good

mee · 06-06-2008, 11:02 AM

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People who do think they know everything, scare me.

we know as much as we need to know, to gain everlasting life John 17;3

juantoo3 · 06-06-2008, 11:04 AM

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we know as much as we need to know, to gain everlasting life John 17;3

Know? Or hope and trust in faith? The two are not the same.

17th Angel · 06-06-2008, 11:05 AM

123 strikes again with a very nice post.... Faith/knowledge... Two different things, I agree to a degree.

Tao_Equus · 06-06-2008, 11:06 AM

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Does there have to be profit? Wisdom is a state of happiness and stillness in ones mind, that is more than enough.

Then that happiness and stillness is ones profit.

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I don't feel wisdom is always intended for the wise either....

Intended?

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No idea where the bridge goes too... How about a bigger picture?

mee · 06-06-2008, 11:07 AM

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If you knew everything, you would be the exact idea of the Creator, as I would say that it knows everything... We are mortals, us many, many, small creatures.... In the scale of things, we pretty much know nothing....

very true , Jehovah IS THE ALL WISE ONE

Divine Wisdom. Wisdom in the absolute sense is found in Jehovah God, who is "wise alone" (Ro 16:27; Re 7:12)

Tao_Equus · 06-06-2008, 11:11 AM

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Ahhh But Mr Angel, "What good is wisdom when it brings no profit to the wise" ?

By the way that was a quote from Angel heart (original one).

juantoo3 · 06-06-2008, 11:12 AM

I think Tao has a point, and I agree many attempt to make the meaningless into something meaningful. It is another form of idolatry.

Examples: the fluff passed as news every night on the networks, who cares what the celebrity of the moment had for lunch or screwed last night, or the score of the ball game? These are meaningless things, but so many try to make them meaningful.

mee · 06-06-2008, 11:15 AM

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123 strikes again with a very nice post.... Faith/knowledge... Two different things, I agree to a degree.

The Scriptures tell us: "Faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities though not beheld." (Heb 11:1)

Essentially, knowledge means familiarity with facts acquired by personal experience, observation, or study.

The Bible strongly urges the seeking for and treasuring of right knowledge, recommending it rather than gold. (Pr 8:10; 20:15)
Jesus stressed the importance of truly knowing him and his Father, and knowledge is repeatedly emphasized in the books of the Christian Greek Scriptures.—Joh 17:3; Php 1:9; 2Pe 3:18.

17th Angel · 06-06-2008, 11:16 AM

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Then that happiness and stillness is ones profit. Intended?

intended? Yeah... Wise words, are ways of making things more, simple.... Meaning, they can be for teaching... Example that quote a FOOL can be counted as wise for holding his tongue (or what not...) See?

What bridge is that? And I shall tell you. I already have my own meaning for it, but I want to check to see if there is something I am missing.... Such as historical... Folklore or art or so on...

juantoo3 · 06-06-2008, 11:21 AM

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The Scriptures tell us: "Faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities though not beheld." (Heb 11:1)

[FONT=Arial]Essentially, knowledge means familiarity with facts acquired by personal experience, observation, or study.

Point being? Does this refute or agree with my comment?

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The Bible strongly urges the seeking for and treasuring of right knowledge, recommending it rather than gold. (Pr 8:10; 20:15)

Right knowledge, specifically as applied to Proverbs, is "wisdom." That is what we are to seek as (if for) hidden treasure. Proverbs 2 as I recall sums up nicely.