The Full Armor of God - Page 2

Sacredstar · 02-19-2005, 12:20 AM

Dear Brian

hi hi governor

Dear Bandit

Nothing I say will make any difference because I am pointing at the moon and you are looking at my finger. But I will leave you with this quote from the bible.

"The Kingdom of GOD is within YOU" Luke 17:21

As you are the Kingdom of GOD, you also have the power of GOD if you choose to accept it and use it for the will to good.

Night, night and GOD bless

Sacredstar

Bandit · 02-19-2005, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Sacredstar

Dear Brian

hi hi governor

Dear Bandit

Nothing I say will make any difference because I am pointing at the moon and you are looking at my finger. But I will leave you with this quote from the bible.

"The Kingdom of GOD is within YOU" Luke 17:21

As you are the Kingdom of GOD, you also have the power of GOD if you choose to accept it and use it for the will to good.

Night, night and GOD bless

Sacredstar

No problem Star

Just remember to put your armor on as you journey to the moon and make sure the oxygen tank is full. Yes, The Kingdom of God that is within us is LOADED with armor and love and power.

Keep your shoes of peace on And above all, don't foget your shield of faith.
(tease)
Night Night, sleep tight and God bless you too.

I, Brian · 02-19-2005, 10:42 AM

It was simply because we had a Christian on the Alternative's board being chastised for bringing too evangelic a stance against pagan beliefs.

It's always a delicate point to work with though, so I thought perhaps I should throw in a balancing post over here.

Sacredstar · 02-19-2005, 06:15 PM

No problem I guess we are all in agreement.....

Blessings in abundance

Sacredstar

Bandit · 02-19-2005, 07:12 PM

Yah. Everything is good Brian and Star.

When I was kid, I always seen this soldier with armor and strength, yet he never hurt anyone and he became invinsible (so to speak) if he kept all his armor on.
Now I wanted to see each piece of armor not just for what it is and what it does for us, but also in its specific location as portrayed and its significance.

The helmet protects the head and thougts, but why is salvation emphasized about the head?
Why is Truth placed about the loins? What is protected in tha area.
We want the truth and can discern a lie by our gutt feeling? Truth is placed in the loins for that is where the seed is?

Breastplate is an easy one. Protects out heart and keeps us pure in heart. We want Gods righteousness, and to keep out unrighteousness and self righteousness.

Shoes of peace is easy. We go, stay and leave in peace. We spread the gospel in peace. Jesus and the Apostles did not go where people did not want them, they would go somewhere else where people would at least listen to there testimony of Jesus.

Sword of the spirit This is a good piece if we understand what it is and how to use it correctly.
The Word of God cuts down to the very soul of every man, when recieved. Within that is posesses a healing agent that makes us alive to the spirit of God.
But only when it is all recieved and given in spirit and in truth.

We dont want just a little scratch, we want the whole thing.

Sacredstar · 02-19-2005, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bandit

Yah. Everything is good Brian and Star.

The helmet protects the head and thougts, but why is salvation emphasized about the head?

Because the Essenes taught that 'energy follows thought' and because what you think you create, which is why Jesus taught people to have good thoughts because negative thoughts create negative emotions, words and deeds. And a clouded lense of perceptional consciousness creates negative judgements and prejudice.

Thoughts, beliefs, attitudes and peceptions determine salvation.

Love beyond measure

Sacredstar

Bandit · 02-19-2005, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sacredstar

Because the Essenes taught that 'energy follows thought' and because what you think you create, which is why Jesus taught people to have good thoughts because negative thoughts create negative emotions, words and deeds. And a clouded lense of perceptional consciousness creates negative judgements and prejudice.

Thoughts, beliefs, attitudes and peceptions determine salvation.

Love beyond measure

Sacredstar

That looks good to me.

I think it could also be that we are to have the same mind of God in Christ, a renewing of the mind that is new and could even be new daily if we allow it, different than what we are naturally born into (such as just the physical school)...and that just came to me with the help of your post. Thanks so much.

What do you feel about truth being girded about the loins or waist area?
I have a couple of ideas but I think there is more there than what I am seeing.

Faithfulservant · 02-20-2005, 09:56 AM

I personally felt that you were pointing to yourself and Bandit was looking at your finger.

A Christian Fundamentalist

Faithfulservant · 02-20-2005, 10:14 AM

The Belt of Truth

Eph 6:14 Stand therefore, having girded your waist with truth,

Isa 11:5 Righteousness shall be the belt of His loins, And faithfulness the belt of His waist.

Ex 12:11 And thus you shall eat it: with a belt on your waist, your sandals on your feet, and your staff in your hand. So you shall eat it in haste. It is the Lord's Passover

1 Kings 18:46 Then the hand of the Lord came upon Elijah; and he girded up his loins and ran ahead of Ahab to the entrance of Jezreel.

Eph 4:25 (NKJ) Therefore, put away lying, "Let each one of you speak truth with his neighbor."

John 4:24 God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."

Col 3:8-10 But now you yourselves are to put off all these: anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy language out of your mouth. Do not lie to one another, since you have put off the old man with his deeds, and have put on the new man who is renewed in knowledge according to the image of Him who created him,

2 Th 2:10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

All of this to me shows that we, as Christians are supposed to be demonstrations of the truth.. We are to set ourselves as examples for others to see so that they can find no lies or deceit within us in order to be able to attack. So like the piece of armor it depicts.. its a protection of a very vital area of our faith. The Truth.

Sacredstar · 02-20-2005, 02:21 PM

Dear Bandit

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Originally Posted by Bandit

That looks good to me.

1) I think it could also be that we are to have the same mind of God in Christ, a renewing of the mind that is new and could even be new daily if we allow it.

2) different than what we are naturally born into (such as just the physical school)...and that just came to me with the help of your post.

3) What do you feel about truth being girded about the loins or waist area? I have a couple of ideas but I think there is more there than what I am seeing.

1) Exactly when we think, see and hear with the gentleness and love of GOD then we become divine love in manifestation on the earth plane, our GOD self and in this way GOD is more able to work through us with the will-to-good so that we can fufil the divine plan.

2) Yes different but the Christ Vision of Peace is that we should teach these aspects, the universal truths and spiritual laws in schools and if we did so there would be no more bullying and the Christ within would have no need to suffer anymore, true salvation in GOD's name.

3) Interesting one, near to the Loins is the serpent of Kundalini energy discovered by an Indian sage, as we raise our consciousness the Kundalini rises and stays risen at the level that we have achieved through integration and walking our talk. From below the breastplate down to the pelvic bone is what the East call the 'Hara' it is the divine shrine of GOD energy. Martial artistes and many eastern CM therapies work from and with the Hara to harness the power. The breath and the power of singing also comes from the Hara. It is said the healthier the Hara the more power can be accessed. Within the Hara is the Solar Plexus the level of consciousness that is I AM POWER, so it is what we do with this GOD power that really matters, do we use it to dominate and control others like President Bush or do we use the energy for the will-to-good to assist others to wake up and raise their consciousness by taking responsibility for what they co-create? That is our choice to choose. The Christian Spiritualists say that from the belly button there is a silver cord that connects our soul to the higher realms. A few centimetres below the belly button is the Tanden sometimes called the Dantien in the East. CS also say there is also a cord from the heart and through the crown chakra.

Hope that helps let us know if anything leaps out at you.

Love beyond measure

Sacredstar

Sacredstar · 02-21-2005, 01:22 AM

just reminded to add that the solar plexus is the centre of the body and Jesus mentions the centre in the GT.

"The Kingdom is in your centre and is about you, when you come to know yourselves, then you will be known, and you will be aware that it is you who are the sons of the living father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you are in poverty and you who are the poverty.”3

being love

Kim xx

Bandit · 02-21-2005, 03:48 AM

I will have another look in a couple of days and Thank You mucho Star and the others for looking at this whole study with me. It has been a blessing.

Girded with Truth. Better than just a bath towel.

didymus · 02-21-2005, 06:09 AM

Sacred star said God is Love and she was challenged in a very pessimistic way. In fact I couldn't believe my eyes. Instead of agreeing with her that God is love, which it says in the Bible, the Christians sounded like the atheists and sacredstar like the christian. That is my opinion. Sacredstar is a believer in Christ and in God so why do you fight her so?

Are her ideas that strange to you that you fight her words? Does the lost gospel of Thomas trouble you so that you get rattled like that? I think people shut her down because her view is different from the orthodox one and that is sad.

And I must say, if a person with no knowledge of christian doctrine read these notes, sacredstar would be the more appealing and positive draw. Her messages emit a warmness while the others read very harshly and are filled with conent. This is only my opinion.

KnightoftheRose · 02-21-2005, 10:10 AM

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Sacred star said God is Love and she was challenged in a very pessimistic way.

Eh? I don't remember anyone ever claiming God isn't Love. We were discussing whether it was best to *armor* oneself in love or not - but we weren't debating the nature of God.

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Sacredstar is a believer in Christ and in God so why do you fight her so?

Sacredstar is a very positive, upbeat person. She is very devout. She is a believer in Christ. Why would anyone "fight her so?" Simply this: she is a mystic, we are a bit more orthodox. Different views on the same thing - it is as simple as that. Have you never debated with a family member?

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I think people shut her down because her view is different from the orthodox one and that is sad.

I'd disagree with some of Sacredstar's beliefs (for instance, Reiki healing), but that doesn't mean I would "shut her down". I enjoy reading her posts. They are always so uplifting.

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And I must say, if a person with no knowledge of christian doctrine read these notes, sacredstar would be the more appealing and positive draw. Her messages emit a warmness while the others read very harshly and are filled with conent.

Bandit · 02-21-2005, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Faithfulservant

The Belt of Truth

Eph 6:14 Stand therefore, having girded your waist with truth,

Isa 11:5 Righteousness shall be the belt of His loins, And faithfulness the belt of His waist.

Ex 12:11 And thus you shall eat it: with a belt on your waist, your sandals on your feet, and your staff in your hand. So you shall eat it in haste. It is the Lord's Passover

1 Kings 18:46 Then the hand of the Lord came upon Elijah; and he girded up his loins and ran ahead of Ahab to the entrance of Jezreel.

Eph 4:25 (NKJ) Therefore, put away lying, "Let each one of you speak truth with his neighbor."

John 4:24 God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."

Col 3:8-10 But now you yourselves are to put off all these: anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy language out of your mouth. Do not lie to one another, since you have put off the old man with his deeds, and have put on the new man who is renewed in knowledge according to the image of Him who created him,

2 Th 2:10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

All of this to me shows that we, as Christians are supposed to be demonstrations of the truth.. We are to set ourselves as examples for others to see so that they can find no lies or deceit within us in order to be able to attack. So like the piece of armor it depicts.. its a protection of a very vital area of our faith. The Truth.

Yes Faithful. I see it now. Your scriptures went around and around in my heart. Girded in Truth. The truth about faith in God. The truth about HIS righteouesness and not our own. The truth of Gods Love. The truth about the full armor He has given to us to wear. The truth about salvation that Jesus brought through his blood and the peace of the gospel. The truth about the Word of God and His spirit that both CUTS and HEALS all at the same time.
Once we have it, no one and no thing can stop us. If we lack any of the armor, we can fail. With it, we are sure to succeed in all that God would have us to do for Him and stand and resist the fiery darts of the enemy and any spiritual wickedness.
When lies are spoken it goes right pass us like a speck of dirt in the wind.
KNOW THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE.

Thanks again everyone who supported this and for sharing and may the Lord richly bless you in the Lords Army. We dont have to fight in His army. He does it all for us. All we have to do is stand suited in the armor. The FULL ARMOR OF GOD!