the inner core of essential spiritual truth

[At_the_Wellspring]

Thanks lunamoth


Yeah, can't say i know much about Buddhism/ Hinduism. Though one thing I picked up from the limited reading I have done, was the idea of 'detachment'. Can't say I'm an expert, but I wonder if the idea of detachment in eastern philosophy is at all comparable to the Christian notions of detachment from the 'worldly' world and greater focus on the 'spiritual' world?

I'm not sure but it would be an interesting discussion about detachment from the world vs engagement with the world... anyway, i'm side-tracking here...

[At_the_Wellspring]

Just saw your next thread lunamoth, so good night, sleep well

I've done a few posts but not had a reply straight away like just now, so that was just quietly quite exciting - I start to wonder if my time zone is just too out-of-whack with everyone else. I need to get and do some work now...

Thanks for the thread

[lunamoth]

Originally Posted by At_the_Wellspring

Thanks lunamoth


Yeah, can't say i know much about Buddhism/ Hinduism. Though one thing I picked up from the limited reading I have done, was the idea of 'detachment'. Can't say I'm an expert, but I wonder if the idea of detachment in eastern philosophy is at all comparable to the Christian notions of detachment from the 'worldly' world and greater focus on the 'spiritual' world?

I'm not sure but it would be an interesting discussion about detachment from the world vs engagement with the world... anyway, i'm side-tracking here...

Oh, I think detachment is very much another key word. In Christianity we have the dying of our false self, which I think is like detachment in Eastern Thought. Perhaps some of our other knowledgeable members here will chime in on this one.

peace,
lunamoth

[lunamoth]

Originally Posted by At_the_Wellspring

Just saw your next thread lunamoth, so good night, sleep well

I've done a few posts but not had a reply straight away like just now, so that was just quietly quite exciting - I start to wonder if my time zone is just too out-of-whack with everyone else. I need to get and do some work now...

Thanks for the thread

Hey ATW, I've heard New Zealand is beautiful, and by the movies Lord of the Ring it does seem to be heaven on earth there.

Yes, time for me to sign off for now. Glad to have made your day a bit more exciting! Nice chatting with you too.

Cheers,
lunamoth

[dauer]

Luna,

2. Yes. But I don't think any of this is happening consciously. I don't think we choose. But just like other animals, something feels good and we do it. Something feels bad and we don't do it. Only we have a greater level of discernment that goes way beyond visceral pleasures. And we have imagination. So one day one of the rats in the cage says, "It'd be great if we got great food all the time, and the weather was always perfect, and everybody got along, and nobody stole food, and agnostic encounters always went well." And that's all based on past experiences, but I don't think for a minute Mr. Kaboodle becomes conscious of what's happening.

The way I understand who I am, is that I am the sum total of all of my experiences up until this very moment, plus some important genetic material. And this is how I see life as a whole, not that we have access to the experiences of our ancestors, but that their knowledge and wisdom can get passed down and translated orally, through books, and through observation. So that right now humanity for me is at its highest peak, but it continues to reach higher peaks, although sometimes there may be dips backward, and we may be in one right now, and I guess to borrow from Ken Wilber, there are probably different developmental lines on which humanity is moving forward.

D. Exactly. But I think that this is a direct product of experience. It is also possible any utopian ideal is simply a metaphor for life's drive to adapt and evolve and survive. The most survivable life is in harmony. I don't know. I really don't know.

Dauer