The Nephilim Race

[pfw]

Originally Posted by Faithfulservant

Just a thought.. we are getting taller ... I read somewhere that the average height of a man was a lot shorter even a few hundred years ago.. /shrug

Yep, even in the last 50 odd years the average height has gone up a few inches- a noticable increase since ww2. Neaderthal man may have been, on average, a bit taller than the average 'normal' human of their time but seeing as the giants height was supposedly measured in 'dozens of cubits' there is no corrolation between the neaderthals and the giants that were the offspring of angels/nephilim. That and the neaderthals were 'long gone' by the time Noah's flood was alleged to have happened knocks any relationship between them and the biblical nephilim right on the head.

[divine]

Originally Posted by pfw

The Sumerians were worshiping the Nephilim race and their Giant offspring?- with ref to another of your postings as well- just when did archeology uncover the bones of this non-existant race of Giants? I have to ask, are you for real? Has it ever occored to you that it's more likely that the Nephilim and Giants are simply MYTH. Recognising the biblical Enoch and believeing the APOCRAPHAL Book of Enoch to be true are two TOTALY seperate things. Is it not MORE LIKELY that the Nephilim MYTH is based on the sorys and myths of the Sumerian gods? And I've got to ask again WHEN AND WERE IS THE EVIDENCE OF THIS NON EXISTANT RACE OF GIANTS THAT ARCHEOLOGY HAS UNCOVERED? And you realy ought to read what other people have written before critisising them- Path Of One doesnot contradict him/herself, go back and read again. And what has that (racist) cr*p about Germany and Germans got to do with anything? Infact why am I even bothering to respond to you at all????

Archeologists HAVE found THEIR bones. So no they arent MYTHS. They were REAL. Bones of NEPHILIM/GIANTS have been found. If you dont know this, then you were born yesterday.

The Neandrethal bones and are EVIDENCE of the NEPHILIM.

And HISTORIC legends of the BEINGS are also evidence they were NOT myths conjured up by the mind.

Dragons are an excellent example. People "in denial", like yourself...cried out that they were "MYTHICAL" creatures....

Well, the stories and accounts of the dragons were PRIOR to the first dinosaur bone ever being found.

Dinosaur bones and fossils are "ARCHEOLOCICAL" EVIDENCE that dragons were NOT "myths"...but REAL CREATURES!

Look at the description of a dragon and look at the bones and fossils of dinosaurs...THEY ARE THE SAME CREATURE!

So it is with the NEPHILIM. They were NOT mythical beings...but LEGENDARY.

Myth is "make believe" like darwinism. Legend is a "true" story that has lost a lot of the "actual" events/characters and is an "contaminated" truth if you will.

So, those who want to "deny" the bones of dinosaurs are actually the bones of the "already told" stories of dragons....

...are the same type of people in "denial" that the neandrethals were the nephilim.

Then, the German analogy of descendants of the nephilim is NOT racist as you have incorrectly allegated.

The Neander Valley is IN GERMANY. The Vikings were FROM GERMANY. Bones of the Nephilim have been found IN GERMANY.

The CIA World FactBook shows the #1 Atheistic country IS GERMANY.

There isnt any racism in FACTS? As I've already stated.

This doesnt mean that ALL Germans are descendants...but that SOME were.

Many are atheists because of being VICTIMS of the culture "byproduct" of the "beliefs" passed down through the generations.

But Hitler WAS GERMAN. And if you dont know what he believed...than you werent just born yesterday...you must've been born last night...

[divine]

Originally Posted by pfw

By the way Divine- The Biblical/Noah's flood hasn't been 'proved' by science-unless you're refering to the end of the last ice-age (which happend before the world existed if you're a creationalist which I think you must be) OR you might mean the truely magnificet flood of the Mesoptainan Valley (that's were the Sumerians lived) that happened very shortly after the Sumerians settled there. There's the only 'proof' of the Biblical flood. It's obvious from your postings you don't believe a word of science, only the bible. Fine- don't twist what science says to suit your purposes. This forum and it's threads are ment for open minded discussion- That's why you'll find people of different religions posting on here with different points of view and levels of knowledge and understanding. That, I think, is the last thing I'll ever have to say to you.

SCIENCE has PROVEN that whale skeletons have been found on top of mountains in New Hampshire.

SCIENCE has PROVEN that shellfish and jellyfish fossils have been found of top of mountains in Asia.

SCIENCE has PROVEN that Noah's Ark was found in Iran with fish fossils around it.

SCIENCE has PROVEN that fossils of animals have been found with prey still in its stomach "undigested" and animals still in the middle of giving birth. (Rapid burial, not millions and millions of years...and the 'once upon a time' myth that you fantasy island guys believe).

SCIENCE has PROVEN that the continental plates were exploded apart and the midoceanic ridges and the bodies of water and north and south poles are evidences of this...along with the sea creature fossils found on MULTIPLE CONTINENTS (proof of a WORLD WIDE FLOOD, NOT LOCAL).

HISTORY has PROVEN that Noah's Flood DID happen (every civilization has the account, not JUST the Bible).

SCIENCE has PROVEN that Dinosaur/Dragons DID exist prior to Noah's Flood (fossils and bones with C14, DNA, and red blood cells proving that they are "thousands, not millions of years old").

There was no ice "age". It was a direct result of the WORLD WIDE FLOOD. Hello?

THe list goes on and on and on...Im getting tired so I'll leave with that for now...

Man, you really are in a "make believe" land bro....

[divine]

Originally Posted by pfw

Oh, and by the way since when were Vikings from Germany? A little history and some basic geography wouldn't go a miss here... Hitler was Austrian. And you have a copy of the 'CIA fact book do you? Sorry, German people aren't alone in accepting evolution and it has far more evidence backing it up that the biblical account of creation (unless your only resource is the bible). Hitler considered the Germanic/ Arian race to be the 'master race'- there was no supernatural element to that belief-just eugenics (a flawed version of genetics). As for the rest... if the above simple and easily discoverable facts have evaded your notice so far...

Give me ONE, just ONE bit of PROOF/EVIDENCE of the evolution "myth"?

Go ahead. Deny HISTORY for one. You can only BELIEVE in the myth of evolution by denying HISTORY. You have to just totally ERASING everything that has already happened in order to believe this "fairytale" of darwinism.

Go ahead. Deny SCIENCE for two. You must bypass the scientific method in order to ingnore what's "observed" in order to "believe" this "myth".

Go ahead. Just ONE.

[divine]

Originally Posted by pfw

Yep, even in the last 50 odd years the average height has gone up a few inches- a noticable increase since ww2. Neaderthal man may have been, on average, a bit taller than the average 'normal' human of their time but seeing as the giants height was supposedly measured in 'dozens of cubits' there is no corrolation between the neaderthals and the giants that were the offspring of angels/nephilim. That and the neaderthals were 'long gone' by the time Noah's flood was alleged to have happened knocks any relationship between them and the biblical nephilim right on the head.

Are you stupid

Quite the OPPOSITE! Nature is DEvolving, not Evolving!!!

We are NOT taller than the NEPHILIM/Neandrethals.

Animals were MUCH BIGGER before the FLOOD.

Have you gone mad? CHECK THE FOSSIL RECORD! Everything, including the TREES, PLANTS, ANIMALS(Dragons/Dinosaurs, Giants)...etc.

You've really got to WAKE UP!

[InLove]

I suspect that someone is playing games.

[flowperson]

Go Fish ? ( the card game or the favorite cheer at a Babylonian University )

I'm really curious as to which science books these guys have been reading. None that I've run across.

flow....

[Jack Halyard]

Originally Posted by divine

Are you stupid

Quite the OPPOSITE! Nature is DEvolving, not Evolving!!!

We are NOT taller than the NEPHILIM/Neandrethals.

Animals were MUCH BIGGER before the FLOOD.

Have you gone mad? CHECK THE FOSSIL RECORD! Everything, including the TREES, PLANTS, ANIMALS(Dragons/Dinosaurs, Giants)...etc.

You've really got to WAKE UP!

I think the question is whether you are or not, Divine.
In response to your statement that "we are NOT taller than the NEPHILIM/Neandrethals." (and that's Neanderthals by the way), we are, by average, much taller.
On average, Neanderthal males stood about 1.65 m tall (just under 5' 5") and were heavily built, and muscular due to their physical activity and robust bone structure. Females were about 1.53 to 1.57 m tall (about 5'–5'2").

I would say that maybe you need to do just a tad more research.

[pfw]

Originally Posted by Jack Halyard

I think the question is whether you are or not, Divine.
In response to your statement that "we are NOT taller than the NEPHILIM/Neandrethals." (and that's Neanderthals by the way), we are, by average, much taller.
On average, Neanderthal males stood about 1.65 m tall (just under 5' 5") and were heavily built, and muscular due to their physical activity and robust bone structure. Females were about 1.53 to 1.57 m tall (about 5'–5'2").

I would say that maybe you need to do just a tad more research.

I'm just going to ignore Divine as it's pretty obvious the he/she/it will not listen to any counter argument, believes what he/she/it has already been told is true by other people, is totaly incapable of independant thought or reasoning and won't bother to do any reasurch or questioning of his/her/its own. Divine is a total waste of time, dna and effort and probably best ignored till he/she/it goes and crawls back under the rock it came from.

[InLove]

Maybe divine is just very young? Or maybe there is some other reason for the nature of his/her posts? Maybe very young and doing some debating exercise in which he/she must argue for the side with which he would least agree? (In which case, I submit there is most definitely some polish needed!)

But if the goal of these posts is to intentionally make certain groups of people look intolerent or ignorant, that's a different deal. There are individuals in just about any organization who do quite well in this area without any outside help.

If divine is sincere, then I would be most interested, like some others here have expressed, in discovering the research sources.

InPeace,
InLove

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by pfw

I'm just going to ignore Divine as it's pretty obvious the he/she/it will not listen to any counter argument, believes what he/she/it has already been told is true by other people, is totaly incapable of independant thought or reasoning and won't bother to do any reasurch or questioning of his/her/its own. Divine is a total waste of time, dna and effort and probably best ignored till he/she/it goes and crawls back under the rock it came from.

Unfortunately, one reads similar to the other, to those looking in...

[divine]

Originally Posted by Jack Halyard

I think the question is whether you are or not, Divine.
In response to your statement that "we are NOT taller than the NEPHILIM/Neandrethals." (and that's Neanderthals by the way), we are, by average, much taller.
On average, Neanderthal males stood about 1.65 m tall (just under 5' 5") and were heavily built, and muscular due to their physical activity and robust bone structure. Females were about 1.53 to 1.57 m tall (about 5'–5'2").

I would say that maybe you need to do just a tad more research.

No, you need to do more research. They have found even 36 ft Nephilim bones. Any 5.5 would have been a child...duh?

[divine]

Originally Posted by pfw

I'm just going to ignore Divine as it's pretty obvious the he/she/it will not listen to any counter argument, believes what he/she/it has already been told is true by other people, is totaly incapable of independant thought or reasoning and won't bother to do any reasurch or questioning of his/her/its own. Divine is a total waste of time, dna and effort and probably best ignored till he/she/it goes and crawls back under the rock it came from.

LOL!!! I knew it!!! You would have NO/ZERO proofs of the darwin/evolutionism MYTH. Typical...

[divine]

Originally Posted by flowperson

Go Fish ? ( the card game or the favorite cheer at a Babylonian University )

I'm really curious as to which science books these guys have been reading. None that I've run across.

flow....

See? There in lies your fantasies...you've relied on "indoctrinations" when in elementary schools by deceptions that as a 1st grader you could not refute.

But if you study for yourself...and use your own brain...you will KNOW THE TRUTH. Which is the "elephant in the living room".

I mean, you leave me perplexed at your mindset?

for starters...this forum does not allow me to post urls to other sites...so I am unable to provide you with the proper links to help educate and enlighten you to the truth. Maybe combine this...



answersingenesis...

.org/articles/am/v1/n1/radioactive-dating


christian...

worldviewnetwork.com/article.php?ArticleID=1428


dr

dino.

...plaingospel.com/seminar4_300k.wmv

[divine]

Originally Posted by pfw

I'm just going to ignore Divine as it's pretty obvious the he/she/it will not listen to any counter argument, believes what he/she/it has already been told is true by other people, is totaly incapable of independant thought or reasoning and won't bother to do any reasurch or questioning of his/her/its own. Divine is a total waste of time, dna and effort and probably best ignored till he/she/it goes and crawls back under the rock it came from.

you actually described yourself. Read your post again...and you will see.

but what has me perplexed the most is that we are in the year 2007! this is not 1970! you sound like an "old dog that that wont give up his old habits"...eventhough they have been proven "false" already.

we are the generation and/or era of the "POSTMODERNISTIC" mind. the generation/era that has "transcended" the modernistic mindset of "irrational doctrines and myths" of atheism/darwinism.

ALERT! We are not in 1967! This is the year 2007!!! Wake up! Transcend past the "INDOCTRINATION" of the 1960's!!!

Earth to the diehards! Darwinism is a MYTH! He wasnt even a scientist! He didnt graduate! His own professor wrote a book "debunking" his irrational and "make believe" idiology!!!

Again! Its 2007! Not 1967!!!